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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=""Times New Roman"" size=3>Dear 
Friend,<BR><BR>A recent survey by Nielsen/Netratings says that ""The Internet 
<BR>population is rapidly approaching a 'Half a Billion' people!""<BR><BR>SO WHAT 
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growing!  In addition,<BR>E'mail is without question the most powerful 
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Nothing to Produce!<BR>     *** Your Only Overhead Is Your 
Time!<BR>     *** You Have 100s Of Millions Of Potential 
Customers!!!<BR>     *** You Get Detailed, Easy To Follow 
Startup 
Instructions!<BR><BR>          AND 
THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG . . .<BR>As you read on you'll discover how 
a 'Seen on National TV' <BR>program is paying out a half million dollars, every 
4 to 5 months<BR>from your home, for an investment of only $25 US Dollars 
expense,<BR>one time.  ALL THANKS TO THE COMPUTER AGE . . . <BR>AND THE 
INTERNET!<BR><BR>Before you say ""Bull"", please read the following:<BR>This is 
the letter you have been hearing about on the news<BR>lately.  Due to the 
popularity of this letter on the Internet,<BR>a national weekly news program 
recently devoted an entire<BR>show to the investigation of this program 
described below,<BR>to see if it really can make people money.<BR><BR>The show 
also investigated whether or not the program was<BR>legal.  Their findings 
proved once and for all that there are<BR>""absolutely NO laws prohibiting the 
participation in the<BR>program and if people can follow the simple 
instructions,<BR>they are bound to make some mega bucks with only $25 out 
of<BR>pocket cost"".<BR><BR>     DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE 
OF POPULARITY<BR>     AND RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS 
ATTAINED,<BR>     IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN 
EVER!<BR><BR>***** This is what one had to say:<BR><BR>""Thanks to this 
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time I passed on it.  I am so glad I<BR>finally joined just to see what one 
could expect in return<BR>for the minimal effort and money required.  To my 
asonishment,<BR>I received total $610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money 
still<BR>coming 
in"".<BR><BR>          Pam 
Hedland,  Fort Lee, New 
Jersey<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Here 
is another testimonial:<BR><BR>""This program has been around for a long time but 
I never<BR>believed in it.  But one day when I received this again in 
<BR>the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it.  I followed the<BR>simple 
instructions and walaa. . . .  3 weeks later the money<BR>started to come 
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program, I <BR>have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again.<BR><BR>The 
key to success in this program is to follow the simple<BR>steps and NOT change 
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.<BR>THEN READ IT AGAIN and AGAIN!!!<BR><BR>**FOLLOW THESE SIMPLE 
INSTRUCTIONS,<BR>    TO MAKE YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS 
<BR>    COME 
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report.<BR><BR>     MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON 
YOUR<BR>     ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any 
mail<BR>     problems.<BR><BR>     
*****When you place your order, make 
sure<BR>               
you order each of the 5 reports *****<BR><BR>You will need all 5 reports so that 
you can save them on your<BR>computer and resell them.<BR><BR>YOUR TOTAL COST $5 
X 5 = $25.00<BR><BR>**********Within a few days you will receive, via e-mail, 
each<BR>of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals.  Save<BR>them 
on your computer so they will be accessible for you to<BR>send to the 1,000's of 
people who will order them from you.<BR>Also make a floppy of these reports and 
keep it at your desk<BR>in case something happens to your 
computer.<BR><BR>**********IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the 
people<BR>who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the <BR>list, 
in any way other than what is intructed below in steps<BR>1 through 6 or you 
will lose out on the majority of your profits.<BR>Once you understand the way 
this works, you will also see how<BR>it does not work if you change 
it.<BR><BR>Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter,<BR>it will 
NOT work!!!<BR><BR>People have tried to put their friends/relatives names 
on<BR>all five thinking they could get all the money.  But it does<BR>not 
work this way.  Believe us, we have tried to be greedy<BR>and then nothing 
happened.<BR><BR>So do not try to change anything other than what is 
instructed.<BR>Because if you do, it will not work for you.  
Remember,<BR>honesty reaps the reward!!!<BR><BR>1. After you have ordered all 5 
reports, take this <BR>advertisement and REMOVE the name and address of the 
person in<BR>REPORT # 5.  This person has made it through the cycle and is 
<BR>no doubt counting their fortune.<BR><BR>2. Move the name & address in 
REPORT #4 down to REPORT #5.<BR>3. Move the name & address in REPORT #3 down 
to REPORT #4.<BR>4. Move the name & address in REPORT #2 down to REPORT 
#3.<BR>5. Move the name & address in REPORT #1 down to REPORT #2.<BR>6. 
Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT #1 Position.<BR><BR>PLEASE MAKE 
SURE you copy every name & 
address<BR>ACCURATELY!<BR>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Take 
this entire letter, with the modified list of names,<BR>and save it on your 
computer.  DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER<BR>CHANGES.  Save this on a disk as 
well just in case you loose<BR>any data.<BR><BR>To assist you with marketing 
your business on the Internet,<BR>the 5 reports you purchase will provide you 
with invaluable<BR>marketing information that includes:  How to send bulk 
e-mails<BR>legally, Where to find thousand of free classified ads and <BR>much, 
much more.<BR><BR>There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture 
going:<BR><BR>   METHOD #1:  SENDING BULK E-MAIL 
LEGALLY<BR>   
---------------------------------------------------------<BR>Let's say that you 
decide to start small, just to see how<BR>it goes, and we'll assume you and 
those involved send out<BR>only 5,000 emails each.  Let's also assume that 
the mailing<BR>receives only a 0.2% response (the response could be 
much<BR>better but lets just say it is only 0.2%.  Also, many 
people<BR>will send out hundreds of thousands of e-mails instead of<BR>only 
5,000 each).<BR><BR>Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 
e-mails.<BR>With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for Report #1.<BR>Those 
10 people resonded by sending out 5,000 e-mails each<BR>for a total of 
50,000.  Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2%<BR>responded with 
orders.  That's 100 people responded and<BR>ordered Report #2.  Those 
100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails<BR>each for a total of 500,000 e-mails.  
The 0.2% response to <BR>that is 1000 orders for Report #3.<BR><BR>Thoe 1000 
people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of<BR>5 million e-mails sent 
out.  The 0.2% response to that is<BR>10,000 orders for Report #4.  
Those 10,000 people send out<BR>5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 
million)<BR>e-mails.  the 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders 
for<BR>Report #5.<BR><BR>THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH = 500,000<BR>(a 
half a million).<BR><BR>     Your total income in this 
example is:<BR>     1......$50 +<BR>     
2......$500 +<BR>     3......$5,000 
+<BR>     4......$50,000 +<BR>     
5......$500,000 .................. Grand Total = 
$555,550.00<BR><BR>     NUMBERS DO NOT LIE.  GET A 
PENCIL & PAPER AND<BR>     FIGURE OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE 
RESPONSES AND <BR>     NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU 
WILL<BR>     STILL MAKE A LOT OF 
MONEY!<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>     
REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10<BR>     PEOPLE 
ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 PEOPLE YOU MAILED.<BR><BR>Dare to think for a moment what 
would happen if everyone,<BR>or 1/2, or even 1/5 of those people mailed 100,000 
e-mails<BR>each or more?  There are over 250 million people on the 
<BR>Internet worldwide and counting.  Believe me, many people<BR>will do 
just that, and more!<BR><BR>     METHOD #2:  PLACING 
FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET<BR>    
<BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Advertising 
on the net is very, very inexpensive and there<BR>are hundreds of FREE places to 
advertise.  Placing a lot of<BR>free ads on the internet will easily get a 
larger response.<BR>We strongly suggest you start with method # 1 and add 
METHOD<BR># 2 as you go along.<BR><BR>For every $5 you receive, all you must do 
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"1","> Russell Turpin:
> > That depends on how the list is collected, or
> > even on what the senders say about how the list
> > is collected. 

Senders should vary the recipient list to include non-targets, like party
officials, and to exclude targets enough to give them plausible
deniability.

- Lucas


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"1","Is there a way to look for a particular file or directory in 100's of zip
files??
Something like zgrep but for the filename instead of a word

Thanks Justin"
"1","Hi,

Thank you for the useful replies, I have found some interesting 
tutorials in the ibm developer connection.

https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/j-sec1

and

https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/j-sec2

Registration is needed.

I will post the same message on the Web Application Security list, as 
suggested by someone.

For now, I thing I will use md5 for password checking (I will use the 
approach described in secure programmin fo linux and unix how-to).

I will separate the authentication module, so I can change its 
implementation at anytime.

Thank you again!

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-- 
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See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html"
"1","On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 10:58:34PM +0200, Robert Harley wrote:
> An apparent quote from Dubya, from the Times (sent to me by my Dad):
> 
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-43-351083,00.html

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/bush.htm

Claim:   President George W. Bush proclaimed, ""The problem with
the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur.""

Status:   False.

Origins:   Yet another French fried ""George W. Bush is dumb""
story has been taken up by those who like their caricatures
drawn in stark, bold lines. According to scuttlebutt that
emerged in the British press in July 2002, President Bush,
Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair, and France's President
Jacques Chirac were discussing economics and, in particular,
the decline of the French economy. ""The problem with the
French,"" Bush afterwards confided in Blair, ""is that they don't
have a word for entrepreneur.""

The source was Shirley Williams, also known as the Baroness
Williams of Crosby, who claimed ""my good friend Tony Blair"" had
recently regaled her with this anecdote in Brighton.

Lloyd Grove of The Washington Post was unable to reach Baroness
Williams to gain her confirmation of the tale, but he did
receive a call from Alastair Campbell, Blair's director of
communications and strategy. ""I can tell you that the prime
minister never heard George Bush say that, and he certainly
never told Shirley Williams that President Bush did say it,""
Campbell told The Post. ""If she put this in a speech, it must
have been a joke.""

This is far from the first time Bush has been made the butt of
a jibe meant to showcase what some perceive as his less than
stellar intellectual abilities. Without straining our memories
too hard, we can come up with three other instances we've
chronicled on this site. In the summer of 2001, the joke of the
moment centered upon a supposed study that had resulted in the
ranking of Presidential IQs, with George W. Bush being pegged
as the Chief Executive who scraped the bottom of the
intelligence barrel. In December 2000 it was a fake Nostradamus
quatrain which pontificated that the ""village idiot"" would win
the 2000 Presidential election. And in the spring of 2002, it
was the story of Bush's waving at Stevie Wonder that set folks
to chortling up their sleeves.

Stories that illustrate this widely believed intellectual
shortcoming will always waft after George W. Bush because they
seemingly confirm what many already hold as true about this
public figure, that he's not the brightest fellow that's ever
been. It is human nature to revel in yarns that the hearer at
some level agrees with, thus tales of this sort will always
fall upon appreciative ears.

Barbara ""ears of corn"" Mikkelson

Last updated:   29 July 2002

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"1","On September 2, kialllists@redpie.com said:
> OS-X is linux
> 

Er, no it's not. It's kinda BSD-related, but it's definitely not
Linux.

Waider.
-- 
waider@waider.ie / Yes, it /is/ very personal of me.

""Since I am project leader, I must not be permitted to go insane.""
                                                                - Theo de Radt"
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>
> fathom how Razor thinks it is spam:

Was it sent in HTML? If so, and it had a background, the background may have 
been sent in a spam.

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"1","Thanks Paul,
That is the way I am doing right now, but I would like to NOT use the mouse 
for such things. Any other clue?

-- 

Saludos,
Ulises

 Speaking words of wisdom ...


> In a message dated: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:03:57 CDT
> Ulises Ponce said:
> 
> >Thanks Tony, but I think doing it using component files will get a .signature 
> >by default, but I have many diferent signatures and I want to insert one of 
> >that signatures using a keyboard command. So for a message I will insert a 
> >signature, but for another message I will insert a different signature.
> >
> >Is it possible? I am using sedit for my messages.
> 
> Ahm, if you don't object to using a mouse for such things, exmh has 
> the ability to insert different sigs on demand.  Create a bunch of 
> different sig files, all beginning with .signature, and at start up, 
> exmh will load them all.  In the Sedit window, you'll see a Sign...
> menu item which will allow you to select between each of the listed 
> .signature files for *that* e-mail.  You can actually use several if 
> you'd like (though I don't remember what Preferences... option allows 
> for this).
> 
> However, the signature gets added on send, not inserted directly into 
> the existing Sedit window prior to composition.
> 
> I currently have 6 different sig files I can choose between.
> 
> Additionally, if a .signature file has the execute bit turned on, 
> exmh will attempt to execute the file and use the stdout of the 
> script as your signature.
> 
> I hope this helps some.
> -- 
> 
> Seeya,
> Paul
> --
> 	It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing,
>    but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away.
> 
> 	 If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!
> 
> 
> 
> 
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 05:10:47PM -0400, Larry W. Virden wrote:
> I am wondering whether there's a way that I can use sitescooper and/or plucker
> or some other free utility to convert word documents into something a bit
> more palmos friendly?

	You could try antiword (http://www.winfield.demon.nl/linux/).
It's consoled based and converts word 6+ docs to text and some images to
postscript and png.  You could also try openoffice and/or abiword if you
have x installed.

> I don't have a Windows machine, so it becomes problematic to convert them;
> I know that if this were not the case, in Word I could save them as some
> other more friendly format.

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-- 
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"1","hehe sorry but if you hit caps lock twice the computer crashes?  theres one
ive never heard before... have you tryed Dell support yet? I think dell
computers prefer RedHat... (dell provide some computers pre-loaded with red
hat) i dont know for sure tho! so get someone elses opnion as well as
mine...

-----Original Message-----
From: ilug-admin@linux.ie [mailto:ilug-admin@linux.ie]On Behalf Of Peter
Staunton
Sent: 22 August 2002 19:58
To: ilug@linux.ie
Subject: [ILUG] Newbie seeks advice - Suse 7.2


Folks,

my first time posting - have a bit of Unix experience, but am new to Linux.


Just got a new PC at home - Dell box with Windows XP. Added a second hard
disk
for Linux. Partitioned the disk and have installed Suse 7.2 from CD, which
went
fine except it didn't pick up my monitor.

I have a Dell branded E151FPp 15"" LCD flat panel monitor and a nVidia
GeForce4
Ti4200 video card, both of which are probably too new to feature in Suse's
default
set. I downloaded a driver from the nVidia website and installed it using
RPM.
Then I ran Sax2 (as was recommended in some postings I found on the net),
but
it still doesn't feature my video card in the available list. What next?

Another problem. I have a Dell branded keyboard and if I hit Caps-Lock
twice,
the whole machine crashes (in Linux, not Windows) - even the on/off switch
is
inactive, leaving me to reach for the power cable instead.

If anyone can help me in any way with these probs., I'd be really grateful -
I've searched the 'net but have run out of ideas.

Or should I be going for a different version of Linux such as RedHat?
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after school for the past 2 months, he had been doing this right on his
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and move the others addresses Down , and finally to add your name to
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had 1 magazine and about 300 envelops stuffed in it. There was also a
yellow slip that said I had to go up to the [post office] counter. I thought I
was in trouble or something (laughs)"". He goes on, ""I went up to the
counter and they had a whole box of more mail for me. I had to ride back
home and empty out my backpack because I could not carry it all"".  Over
the next few weeks, the boy continued sending out the E-mail.""  The
money just kept coming in and I just kept sorting it and stashing it in the
closet, barely had time for my homework"".He had also been riding his bike
to several of the banks in his area and exchanging the $5 bills for twenties, 
fifties and hundreds.

""I didn't want the banks to get suspicious so I kept riding to different banks
with like five thousand at a time in my backpack. I would usually tell the
lady at the bank counter that my dad had sent me in to exchange the
money] and he was outside waiting for me.One time the lady gave me a
really strange look and told me that she would not be able to do it for me
and my dad would have to come in and do it, but I just rode to the next
bank down the street (laughs).""  Surprisingly, the boy did not have any
reason to be afraid.The reporting news 

team examined and investigated the so-called ""chain-letter"" the boy was
sending out and found that it was not a chain-letter at all.In fact, it was
completely legal according to US Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18,
Section 1302 and 1341, or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also in
the code of federal regulations, Volume 16, Sections 255 and 436, which
state a product or service must be exchanged for money received.

Every five-dollar bill that he received contained a little note that read,
""Please send me report number XYX"".This simple note made the letter
legal because he was exchanging a service (A Report on how-to) for a 
five-dollar fee.

[This is the end of the media release. If you would like to understand how
the system works and get your $71,000 - please continue reading. What 
appears below is what the 15 year old was sending out on the net -
 YOU CAN USE IT TOO - just follow the simple instructions].

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
BE FINANCIALLY FREE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before you
say ""Bull"", please read the following. This is the letter you have been
hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the
 Internet, a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire
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can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the
program was legal. Their findings proved once and for all that there are
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PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER
THAN EVER.


Note* follow the directons below, I had best results the second time when
I hired a bulk email service in addition to following the reports instructions.

In order for all of us to be successful, many, many emails must be sent so
that the returns are many. I have been extremely successful using the
following company. They send out the offers, and all I do is accept money
for reports, then I send back to the people as soon as possible.

This is what one had to say: ""Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was 
approached many times before but each time I passed on it. I am so glad I
finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal
effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received total
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++++ Order all 5 reports shown on the list below +++
For each report, send $5 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE 
REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the
person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE
SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT
 CORNER in case of any mail problems.

 When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports.
You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on your computer.
Within a few days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports from
these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be
accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from
you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case
something happens to your computer.


IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next
to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than what is
instructed below in step ""1 through 6"" or you will loose out on majority of
your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see
how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method has been
tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work!!! People have tried to put their
friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money.
But it does not work this way. Believe us, we all have tried to be greedy
and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than
what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember,
honesty reaps the reward!!!


1.... After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and
REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5. This person
has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune.
2.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT #5.
3.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT #4.
4.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT #3.
5.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT #2
6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position.


PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY!
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**** Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on
your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a
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Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will
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could be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people
will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails instead of only 5,000 each).
Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails.


With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10
people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000.
Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That equals
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The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report #3.

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Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of
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$5 EACH=$500,000.00 (half million). Your total income in this example is:
1..... $50 +2.....$500 + 3.....$5,000 + 4..... $50,000 + 5..... $500,000.......
Grand Total=$555,550.00


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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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mailed 100,000e-mails each or more? There are over 150 million people on 
the Internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people will do just
that, and more!


METHOD #2: BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET
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"1","On 28 Aug 2002, Daniel Quinlan wrote:

> Dan Kohn <dan@dankohn.com> writes:
> 
> > Daniel, it's easy enough for you to change the Habeas scores yourself
> > on your installation.  If Habeas fails to live up to its promise to
> > only license the warrant mark to non-spammers and to place all
> > violators on the HIL, then I have no doubt that Justin and Craig will
> > quickly remove us from the next release.  But, you're trying to kill
> > Habeas before it has a chance to show any promise.
> 
> I think I've worked on SA enough to understand that I can localize a
> score.  I'm just not comfortable with using SpamAssassin as a vehicle
> for drumming up your business at the expense of our user base.

I have to agree here.  If Habeas is going to die just because SA does not
support it, that's a serious problem with the business model; but that is
nobody's problem but Habeas's.

A possible solution is for Habeas's business model to include some kind of
incentive for users of SA to give it the benefit of the doubt.  I have yet
to think of an incentive that fits the bill ...

On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Justin Mason wrote:

> I don't see a problem supporting it in SpamAssassin -- but I see Dan's
> points.
> 
>   - high score: as far as I can see, that's because SpamAssassin is
>     assigning such high scores to legit newsletters these days, and the
>     Habeas mark has to bring it down below that. :(   IMO we have to fix
>     the high-scorers anyway -- no spam ever *needs* to score over 5 in our
>     scoring system, 5 == tagged anyway.

This is off the topic of the rest of this discussion, but amavisd (in all
its incarnations) and MIMEDefang and several other MTA plugins all reject
at SMTP time messages that scores higher than some threshold (often 10).  
If some new release were to start scoring all spam no higher than 5.1,
there'd better be _zero_ FPs, because all those filters would drop their
thresholds to 5.

On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Michael Moncur wrote:

> But I agree that there needs to be more focus on eliminating rules that
> frequently hit on newsletters. If any newsletters actually use the Habeas
> mark, that will be one way to help.

Newsletters won't use the mark.  Habeas is priced way too high -- a factor
of at least 20 over what the market will bear, IMO -- on a per-message
basis for most typical mailing lists (Lockergnome, say) to afford it.

On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Harold Hallikainen wrote:

> Habeus has come up with a very clever way to use existing law to battle
> spam. It seems that at some point they could drop the licensing fee to
> $1 or less and make all their income off suing the spammers for
> copyright infringement.

Sorry, that just can't work.

If the Habeas mark actually becomes both widespread enough in non-spam,
and effectively-enforced enough to be absent from spam, such that, e.g.,
SA could assign a positive score to messages that do NOT have it, then
spammers are out of business and Habeas has no one to sue.  There's nobody
left to charge except the people who want (or are forced against their
will because their mail won't get through otherwise) to use the mark.

Conversely, if there are enough spammers forging the mark for Habeas to
make all its income suing them, then the mark is useless for the purpose
for which it was designed.

Either way it seems to me that, after maybe a couple of lawsuits against
real spammers and a lot of cease-and-desist letters to clueless Mom&Pops,
then either (a) they're out of business, (b) they have to sell the rights
to use the mark to increasingly questionable senders, or (c) they've both
created and monopolized a market for ""internet postage stamps"" that
everybody has to pay them for.

The latter would be quite a coup if they [*] could pull it off -- they do
absolutely nothing useful, unless you consider threatening people with
lawsuits useful, yet still collect a fee either directly or indirectly
from everyone on the internet -- effectively we'll be paying them for the
privilege of policing their trademark for them.  I don't believe they'll
ever get that far, but I don't particularly want to help them make it.

[*] And I use the term ""they"" loosely, because the whole company could 
consist of one lawyer if it really got to that point."
"1","I am trying to rebuild the recently posted ALSA driver package for my 
kernel.  Although I run Red Hat 7.3, I am not using a Red Hat kernel 
package: my kernel is lovingly downloaded, configured, and built by 
hand.  Call me old fashioned.

Sadly, the RPM rebuild fails part way through:

     % rpm --rebuild alsa-driver-0.9.0rc3-fr6.src.rpm

     gcc -DALSA_BUILD -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE=1 \
     -I/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/alsa-driver-0.9.0rc3/include \
     -I/lib/modules/2.4.18/build/include -O2 \
     -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -DLINUX -Wall \
     -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe   -DEXPORT_SYMTAB \
     -c sound.c

     sound.c:41: `snd_hack_usb_set_interface' undeclared here (not in a \
     function)

     sound.c:41: initializer element is not constant

     sound.c:41: (near initialization for \
     __ksymtab_snd_hack_usb_set_interface.value')

     make[1]: *** [sound.o] Error 1

The line in question looks like this:

	/* USB workaround */
	#if LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(2, 5, 24)
	#if defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO) || \
	defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO_MODULE) || \
	defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_MIDI) || \
	defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_MIDI_MODULE)
-41-> 
EXPORT_SYMBOL(snd_hack_usb_set_interface);
	#endif
	#endif

Any suggestions?"
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about this project.

I am a highly placed official of  Government of Nigeria and also a
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My committee - The Niger Delta Development Corporation(NDDC)-which is in
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The transfer will be effected to your account within ten-fourteen
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your contact numbers including fax number.

I am looking forward to doing business with you and do solicit
your confidentiality in this transaction,  Please mail your
response to me.

Yours faithfully,
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"1","Thanks Matthias.  Actually I got all four speakers with subwoofer
working in digital out mode with gamixer.
(http://www1.tcnet.ne.jp/fmurata/linux/down/)

However switching between analog and digital, I'm still baffled.  As I
have a tuner and cassette deck hooked up to ""Line In"" on a SBLive! 5.1,
which is in analog mode.  But digital out works great now!

On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 23:26, Matthias Saou wrote:
> Once upon a time, Lance wrote :
> 
> > Ok, I got ALSA installed and there is no static inbetween mp3s like
> > before which is great!  My setup is digital 4.1 but sound is only coming
> > from front 2 speakers and subwoofer, rear speakers there is no sound. 
> > Also alsamixer or aumix are unresponsive as well. 
> 
> Maybe you could find more info or tips on the ALSA page for your card?
> Also, you could try ""alsactl store"", editing /etc/asound.state"" by hand
> (for me it contains data similar to what I can control with ""alsamixer"")
> then run ""alsactl restore"" and see if you're able to change what you want
> that way.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> -- 
> Matthias Saou                                World Trade Center
> -------------                                Edificio Norte 4 Planta
> System and Network Engineer                  08039 Barcelona, Spain
> Electronic Group Interactive                 Phone : +34 936 00 23 23
> 
>"
"1","On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Tom wrote:

> from http://www.arstechnica.com/
>
> ""There has mostly been talk thus far and little action, but the
> Department of Justice says it may be ready to file criminal lawsuits
> against individuals [1] who distribute or receive unauthorized
> copyrighted material over the Internet.

And yet STILL noone is out there creating _public domain_ content. Is there
even one person out there can can even begin to talk without being a
complete hypocrite? And no the ""open source"" people cant talk either, the
GPL aint even close. I know I cant talk.

If the creator didnt say you could have it without paying, it's theft, so
simple, hell that's even in all the major holy books.

Fair use needs to be clarified a bit and then I hope they start locking
people up. How else do i ever have hope of finding a job working for someone
that makes things people are supposed to ... *drumroll* pay for.

- Adam L. ""Duncan"" Beberg
  http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/
  beberg@mithral.com


http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork"
"1","Klez: The Virus That Won't Die
 
Already the most prolific virus ever, Klez continues to wreak havoc.

Andrew Brandt
>>From the September 2002 issue of PC World magazine
Posted Thursday, August 01, 2002


The Klez worm is approaching its seventh month of wriggling across 
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...

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 ordinates to enable us fileletter of  claim to the appropriate department
for
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nature.

NB: Please remember to give me your Phone and Fax No

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"1","Severity: Security
Product: gaim
Keywords: gaim hyperlink manual
References: 
  CAN-2002-0989 
    http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2002-0989
  Gaim Changelog
    http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog

Gaim is an instant messaging client based on the published TOC
protocol from AOL. The developers of Gaim, an instant messenger client
that combines several different networks, found a vulnerability in the
hyperlink handling code. The 'Manual' browser command passes an
untrusted string to the shell without escaping or reliable quoting,
permitting an attacker to execute arbitrary commands on the users
machine. Unfortunately, Gaim doesn't display the hyperlink before the
user clicks on it. Users who use other inbuilt browser commands aren't
vulnerable.

The fixed version of Gaim no longer passes the user's manual browser
command to the shell. Commands which contain the %s in quotes will
need to be amended, so they don't contain any quotes. The 'Manual'
browser command can be edited in the 'General' pane of the
'Preferences' dialog, which can be accessed by clicking 'Options' from
the login window, or 'Tools' and then 'Preferences' from the menu bar
in the buddy list window.

Please download Gaim 0.59.1 or later using Red Carpet. You may also
obtain this update from the Ximian FTP site.

Debian Potato
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/debian-potato-i386/gaim_0.59.1-1.ximian.2_i386.deb
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/debian-potato-i386/gaim-common_0.59.1-1.ximian.2_i386.deb
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/debian-potato-i386/gaim-gnome_0.59.1-1.ximian.2_i386.deb

Mandrake 8.0
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/mandrake-80-i586/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i586.rpm

Mandrake 8.1
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/mandrake-81-i586/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i586.rpm

Mandrake 8.2
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/mandrake-82-i586/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i586.rpm

Redhat 6.2
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-62-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-62-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm

Redhat 7.0
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-70-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-70-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm

Redhat 7.1
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-71-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-71-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm

Redhat 7.2
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-72-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-72-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm

Redhat 7.3
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-73-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-73-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm

Solaris 7/8
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/solaris-7-sun4/gaim-0.59.1-2.ximian.1.sparc.rpm

SuSE 7.1
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-71-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-71-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm

SuSE 7.2
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-72-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-72-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm

SuSE 7.3
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-73-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-73-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm

SuSE 8.0
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-80-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-80-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm

Yellowdog 2.0
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-20-ppc/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-20-ppc/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm

Yellowdog 2.1
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-21-ppc/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-21-ppc/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm

Yellowdog 2.2
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-22-ppc/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-22-ppc/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm"
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"1","On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Tom wrote:

--]
--]XviD [1] is a project to make GPL divx codecs. Sigma Designs [1] is a


Sorry, Sigma Designs should be the [2] not the [1]


http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork"
"-1","Dear friend,

I am Mrs. Sese-seko widow of late President Mobutu Sese-seko of Zaire, now known as Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). I am moved to write you this letter. 

This was in confidence considering my present circumstance and situation. I escaped along with my husband and two of our sons James Kongolo and Nzanga out of Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) to Abidjan, Coted'ivoire where my family and I settled, while we later moved to settled in Morroco where my husband later died of cancer disease. However, due to this situation we decided to change most of my husband's billions of dollars deposited in Swiss bank and other countries into other forms of money coded for safe purpose because the new head of state of (Dr) Mr Laurent Kabila has made arrangement with the Swiss government and other European countries to freeze all my late husband's treasures deposited in some european countries. 

Hence, my children and I decided laying low in Africa to study the situation
till when things gets better. Like now that president Kabila is dead and the son taking over
(Joseph Kabila). One of my late husband's chateaux in Southern France was confiscated by the french government, and as such I had to change my identity so that my investment will not be traced and confiscated.I have deposited the sum Eighteen Million United State
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stock in multi-national companies and to engage in other safe and non-speculative investments as adviseby your good self. May I at this point emphasize the high level of
confidentiality, which this upcoming project demands,and hope you will not betray the trust and
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the funds are currently being maintained and also discuss remuneration for your services.For this reason kindly furnish us your contact information,that is your personal telephone and fax number for validation purpose and acknowledge receipt of this mail using the above email address.

Yours sincerely,

Mrs. Mariam M. Seseseko."
"1","I want to thank those involved in making these RPMS available.  Thanks
guys, thanks Matthias.

Lance

On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 14:30, Lance wrote:
> Thanks Matthias.  Actually I got all four speakers with subwoofer
> working in digital out mode with gamixer.
> (http://www1.tcnet.ne.jp/fmurata/linux/down/)
> 
> However switching between analog and digital, I'm still baffled.  As I
> have a tuner and cassette deck hooked up to ""Line In"" on a SBLive! 5.1,
> which is in analog mode.  But digital out works great now!
> 
> On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 23:26, Matthias Saou wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Lance wrote :
> > 
> > > Ok, I got ALSA installed and there is no static inbetween mp3s like
> > > before which is great!  My setup is digital 4.1 but sound is only coming
> > > from front 2 speakers and subwoofer, rear speakers there is no sound. 
> > > Also alsamixer or aumix are unresponsive as well. 
> > 
> > Maybe you could find more info or tips on the ALSA page for your card?
> > Also, you could try ""alsactl store"", editing /etc/asound.state"" by hand
> > (for me it contains data similar to what I can control with ""alsamixer"")
> > then run ""alsactl restore"" and see if you're able to change what you want
> > that way.
> > 
> > Matthias
> > 
> > -- 
> > Matthias Saou                                World Trade Center
> > -------------                                Edificio Norte 4 Planta
> > System and Network Engineer                  08039 Barcelona, Spain
> > Electronic Group Interactive                 Phone : +34 936 00 23 23
> > 
> >"
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"1","All,

Is it just me or has there been a massive increase in the amount of email 
being falsely bounced around the place? I've already received email from a 
number of people I don't know, asking why I am sending them email. These 
can be explained by servers from Russia and elsewhere. Coupled with the 
false emails I received myself, it's really starting to annoy me. Am I the 
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"1","Date:        Fri, 23 Aug 2002 02:05:19 +0700
    From:        Robert Elz <kre@munnari.oz.au>
    Message-ID:  <16323.1030043119@munnari.OZ.AU>

When I said ...

  | This is from today's cvs

that will translate as  ""yesterday's"" now of course (before the most
recent set of changes (catchup speedups, and so on)).

kre"
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"1","> > > > Just cvs up'ed and nowadays Catch-up Unseen is __extremely__ slow on 
> > > > large (>100 msgs) unseen sequences. Anybody else having this problem?
> > > 
> > > I'll take the blame.
> > > 
> > > The reason, I suspect, is that we're needlessly reading the .sequences file 
> > > multiple times because of other sequences.  I need to make the code much 
> > > smarter about handling that file, but first I have a few other fish to fry in 
> > > my rather large patch that's on it's way.
> > > 
> > 
> > No panic,
> > 
> > I'm all for cleaning things up before getting it optimized.
> 
> Okay, this fix is now checked in.
> 
I'm afraid it didn't help. It still seems to be slower than ~1 month 
ago. Maybe slightly faster than yeasterday. I'm (still) seeing an 
""unseen countdown"" in the log.

18:51:25 Writing /home/ander/Mail/lists/l-k/.mh_sequences
18:51:25 lists/l-k has 57 msgs in unseen
18:51:25 lists/l-k has 56 msgs in unseen
18:51:25 lists/l-k has 55 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 54 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 53 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 52 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 51 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 50 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 49 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 48 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 47 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 46 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 45 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 44 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 43 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 42 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 41 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 40 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 39 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 38 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 37 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 36 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 35 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 34 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 33 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 32 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 31 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 30 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 29 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 28 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 27 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 26 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 25 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 24 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 23 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 22 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 21 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 20 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 19 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 18 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 17 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 16 msgs in unseen
18:51:30 lists/l-k has 15 msgs in unseen
18:51:30 lists/l-k has 14 msgs in unseen
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18:51:31 lists/l-k has 5 msgs in unseen
18:51:31 lists/l-k has 4 msgs in unseen
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18:51:47 Folder_Change lists/exmh {Msg_Show cur}"
"1","In a nutshell - Solaris is Suns own flavour of UNIX.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kiall Mac Innes [mailto:kiall@redpie.com] 
> Sent: 22 August 2002 17:23
> To: ILUG
> Subject: [ILUG] Sun Solaris..
> 
> 
> Can someone explain what type of operating system Solaris 
> is... as ive never seen or used it i dont know wheather to 
> get a server from Sun or from DELL i would prefer a linux 
> based server and Sun seems to be the one for that but im not 
> sure if Solaris is a distro of linux or a completely 
> different operating system? can someone explain...
> 
> Kiall Mac Innes
>"
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================Order all 5 reports shown on the list below 
================= 
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IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed 
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3.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4. 
4.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3. 
5.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2 
6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. 
PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY! 
=========================================================
======= 
**** Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it 
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Save this on a disk as well just in case you loose any data. To assist 
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=========================================================
======= 
Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and 
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Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total 
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Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That's=100 
people responded and ordered Report # 2. 
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million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders 
for Report! # 4. Whose 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a 
total of 
50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 
orders for 
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million). 
Your total income in this example is: 1..... $50 + 2..... $500 
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Total=$555,550.00 
NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE 
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MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ! 
=========================================================
======= 
REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING 
OUT 
OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if 
everyone or half or even one 4th of those people mailed 100,000e-mails 
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METHOD # 2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET 
=========================================================
======= 
Advertising on the net is very very inexpensive and there are 
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===================AVAILABLE REPORTS 
========================== 
ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always 
send 
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PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW : 
=========================================================
======= 
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> 

Russell Turpin:
> That depends on how the list is collected, or
> even on what the senders say about how the list
> is collected. Better to just put it on a website,
> and that way it can be surfed anonymously. AND
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It doesn't work that way.  A website is opt-in, spam is no-opt.  If you
visit a samizdat site you can get in trouble.  If you get samizdat spam,
the worst that can be said is that you might have read it.  And as long as
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mail.  

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Countries.

This fund resulted from an over-invoiced bill from contracts awarded by us
under the budget allocation to our Ministry. This 
bill has been approved for payment by the other concerned Ministries. The
contract has since been executed, 
commissioned and the contractor was paid the actual cost of the contract.
We are left with the balance US$20.5M as part 
of the over-invoiced amount which we have deliberated over estimated for
our own use. But under our protocol division, we 
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is why we are soliciting your assistance in this 
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"1","I wrote:
>I personally doubt it simply because I never heard of Bush and Chirac
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Actually it doesn't say that they did, just that Blair spoke to
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R
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"1","On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 10:24  AM, Justin Mason wrote:

> I plan to
>
> 1. figure out the freqs tonight, suggest what tests to drop
> 2. wait for comments
> 3. drop tests that nobody cares about tomorrow
> 4. sed out the dropped tests from the mass-check logs

This step is unneccesary -- unless you've changed the scripts 
much, any test in the logs which aren't in the rules files will 
just be ignored I think.  You do seem to have changed the 
logs-to-c script and removed the bit where you could specify 
immutable tests at the top -- I took a brief glance through the 
code and couldn't fully make out how it had changed.  I think we 
want to be able to specify immutable test scores though in there 
somewhere -- or is that now handled by the tflags stuff?  For 
the last couple releases, any test which occurred infrequently 
(by thumb-in-the-wind subjective criteria) I set to have 
immutable scores, as well as a handful of other rules.

> 5. kick off the GA
>
> BTW I'll be away this weekend at Linuxbierwanderung, so Craig, 
> you might
> have to run the GA. ;)

Shouldn't be a problem.  Assuming I can get the darned thing to 
compile :)

C"
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"1","On 14:22 29 Aug 2002, Matthias Saou <matthias@egwn.net> wrote:
| Once upon a time, Axel wrote :
| > I am now relaxed again ;), and pass this info on. Probably Matthias Saou
| > himself is ""dude"", and some package has hardwired a path in his build
| > directory. It would be nice to find out which and fix it, but I am using
| > too many of the freshrpm suite to narrow it down.
| 
| Indeed, my usual login is ""dude"" (and has been since long before ""The Big
| Lebowsky"" came out ;-)), and it seems the some programs wrongly hard code
| my home directory when being compiled :-(
| For instance :
| 
| [dude@python dude]$ strings /usr/bin/gentoo | grep dude
| /home/dude/
| [dude@python dude]$ strings /usr/bin/xine | grep dude
| /home/dude/redhat/tmp/xine-root/usr/share/locale
| 
| These should probably be considered bugs in the program's build process
| (especially for xine, look at that!), I'll report them upstream if/when I
| have some time.

This is a standard trap for people building things from source. It's
generally wise to have a special ""build"" environment to avoid these
hassles. Most likely you have some library loading path in your env. An
strace of the app will show it:

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Personally, I have a script called logbuild whose entire purpose is to
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"1","Justin MacCarthy wrote:
> I think I'll ask this question again, as I sent on friday afternoon.  :-) 

Mailman ;-)

Trust me, you do *not* want to running your own mailing lists
on your own software.

You'll wind up crying in a dark room looking for something
high-voltage to stick your fingers into.

Regards,

Vin"
"1","Reza B'Far (eBuilt) wrote:
> problems.... Why do most computer scientists insist on solving the same
> problems over and over again when there are some many more important and
> interesting problems (high level) to be solved ?????

Amen!

Doing it in an (unecessarily) harder way does NOT make you more of a man
(or less of a kiddie).

- Joe"
"1","In a message dated: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:53:55 CDT
Ulises Ponce said:

>Thanks Paul,
>That is the way I am doing right now, but I would like to NOT use the mouse 
>for such things. Any other clue?

The best I can think of is to figure out what the command being 
issued by exmh is that selects and inserts the sig and bind that to a 
key sequence.  That shouldn't be *too* difficult, it's just a matter 
of figuring out the tcl (something my perl-based brain isn't excited 
about :)
-- 

Seeya,
Paul
--
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While he was still in detention that led to his death
due to torture, he directed me to his lawyer in South
Africa because of the escalation of the crisis in
Zimbabwe. He did not want my life to be in danger. He
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"1","On Wed Aug 21 2002 at 15:46, Ulises Ponce wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Is there a command to insert the signature using a combination of keys and not
> to have sent the mail to insert it then?

I simply put it (them) into my (nmh) component files (components,
replcomps, forwcomps and so on).  That way you get them when you are
editing your message.  Also, by using comps files for specific
folders you can alter your .sig per folder (and other tricks).  See
the docs for (n)mh for all the details.

There might (must?) also be a way to get sedit to do it, but I've
been using gvim as my exmh message editor for a long time now.  I
load it with a command that loads some email-specific settings, eg,
to ""syntax"" colour-highlight the headers and quoted parts of an
email)... it would be possible to map some (vim) keys that would add
a sig (or even give a selection of sigs to choose from).

And there are all sorts of ways to have randomly-chosen sigs...
somewhere at rtfm.mit.edu... ok, here we go:
rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-group/news.answers/signature_finger_faq.
(Warning... it's old, May 1995).

> Regards,
> Ulises

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Tony"
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can't read ""flist(seqcount,lists/exmh,unseen)"": no such element in array
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    invoked from within
""incr flist(seqcount,$folder,$seq) $delta""
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Hash: SHA1

Your actual serial number is 1519761310 - from a dig I've just done.

Try resetting the zone number to 2002082901 - some of your secondaries seem 
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That should enable them to pick up the new zonefile.

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At 11:49 02/09/2002 +0100, Ray Dermody wrote:
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>The serial number in our hosts files on our DNS server has gone
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>Its okay to set this back to todays date but I understand that our
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"1","Update on this for anyone that's interested, and because I like closed 
threads... nothing worse than an infinite while loop, is there?

I ended up formatting a floppy on my flatmate's (un-networked) P100 running 
FAT16 Win95, and mcopied the contents of the bootdisk across. Now I have a 
FAT16 Win98 install running alongside Slackware, and can play Metal Gear 
Solid when the mood takes me ;)

/Ciaran.

On Wednesday 21 August 2002 16:21, Ciaran Johnston wrote:
> Dublin said:
> > If you copy the files from your disk to the c: partition and mark it as
> > active it should work ...
>
> Yeah, I figured that, but it doesn't seem to ... well, if that's the case
> I'll give it another go tonight, maybe come back with some error messages.
>
> Just to clarify for those who didn't understand me initially - I have a
> floppy drive installed, but it doesn't physically work. There's nowhere
> handy to pick one up where I am, and I don't fancy waiting a few days for
> one to arrive from Peats.
>
> Thanks for the answers,
> Ciaran.
>
> > You especially need io.sys, command.com and msdos.sys
> >
> > your cd driver .sys and read the autoexec.bat and config.sys files for
> > hints on what you did with your boot floppy <g>
> >
> > P
> >
> > On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 14:07, Ciaran Johnston wrote:
> >> Hi folks,
> >> The situation is this: at home, I have a PC with 2 10Gig HDDs, and no
> >> (working) floppy drive. I have been running Linux solely for the last
> >> year, but recently got the urge to, among other things, play some of
> >> my Windoze games. I normally install the windows partition using a
> >> boot floppy which I have conveniently zipped up, but I haven't any way
> >> of writing or reading a floppy.
> >> So, how do I go about:
> >> 1. formatting a C: drive with system files (normally I would use
> >> format /s c: from the floppy).
> >> 2. Installing the CDROM drivers (my bootdisk (I wrote it many years
> >> ago) does this normally).
> >> 3. Booting from the partition?
> >>
> >> I wiped all my linux partitions from the first drive and created
> >> partitions for Windows (HDA1) Slackware and RedHat. I used cfdisk for
> >> this. I made the first drive (hda) bootable. I then installed the
> >> windows partition in LILO and reran lilo (installed in MBR). I copied
> >> the contents of boot.zip to my new windows partition and tried to boot
> >> it - all I get is a garbled line of squiggles.
> >>
> >> Anyone any ideas? I can't think of anywhere in Athlone to get a new
> >> floppy drive this evening...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ciaran."
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"1","Date:        Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:54:46 -0500
    From:        Chris Garrigues <cwg-dated-1030377287.06fa6d@DeepEddy.Com>
    Message-ID:  <1029945287.4797.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com>


  | I can't reproduce this error.

For me it is very repeatable... (like every time, without fail).

This is the debug log of the pick happening ...

18:19:03 Pick_It {exec pick +inbox -list -lbrace -lbrace -subject ftp -rbrace -rbrace} {4852-4852 -sequence mercury}
18:19:03 exec pick +inbox -list -lbrace -lbrace -subject ftp -rbrace -rbrace 4852-4852 -sequence mercury
18:19:04 Ftoc_PickMsgs {{1 hit}}
18:19:04 Marking 1 hits
18:19:04 tkerror: syntax error in expression ""int ...

Note, if I run the pick command by hand ...

delta$ pick +inbox -list -lbrace -lbrace -subject ftp -rbrace -rbrace  4852-4852 -sequence mercury
1 hit

That's where the ""1 hit"" comes from (obviously).  The version of nmh I'm
using is ...

delta$ pick -version
pick -- nmh-1.0.4 [compiled on fuchsia.cs.mu.OZ.AU at Sun Mar 17 14:55:56 ICT 2002]

And the relevant part of my .mh_profile ...

delta$ mhparam pick
-seq sel -list


Since the pick command works, the sequence (actually, both of them, the
one that's explicit on the command line, from the search popup, and the
one that comes from .mh_profile) do get created.

kre

ps: this is still using the version of the code form a day ago, I haven't
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Hauns Froehlingsdorf
Network/Systems Manager
infinetivity, inc.
952-225.4200
http://www.infinetivity.com"
"1","-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Vincent Cunniffe wrote:
| Justin MacCarthy wrote:
|
|> I think I'll ask this question again, as I sent on friday afternoon.
  :-)
|
|
| Mailman ;-)
|
| Trust me, you do *not* want to running your own mailing lists
| on your own software.
|
| You'll wind up crying in a dark room looking for something
| high-voltage to stick your fingers into.

All things considered, I get that effect with Mailman, but the viable
alternatives are ezmlm, which is loonware and I'm avoiding on principle,
and majordomo, which seems to have stagnated. Oh, and there's apparently
something called SmartList which is a bitch to set up.

Waider.
- --
waider@waider.ie / Yes, it /is/ very personal of me
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"1","Vernon,

I'm changing the instructions in the SpamAssassin INSTALL file 
right now to:

tar xfvz dcc-dccproc.tar.Z
cd dcc-dccproc-X.X.X
./configure && make && make install
cdcc 'info'


Let me know ASAP if that's innapropriate, since we're shipping 
2.40 today!

C

On Monday, September 2, 2002, at 10:02  AM, Vernon Schryver wrote:

>> Here are the instructions in the spamassassin README:
>>
>>     # tar xfvz dcc-dccproc.tar.Z
>>     # cd dcc-dccproc-X.X.X
>>     # ./configure && make && make install
>>     # cdcc 'new map'
>>     # cdcc 'add dcc.rhyolite.com'
>>     # cdcc 'info'
>
> That's ok, except that the 'new map' and ""add dcc.rhyolite.com'
> are respectively unnecessary and wrong.  The map file that comes
> with the source points to localhost and dcc.dcc-servers.net.  Those
> two shipped entries usually do the right thing if there is a local
> server.  If there is no local server or if the local server fails,
> requests are instantly sent to one of the public server names listed
> in the main DCC web page at
> http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/ and http://www.dcc-
> servers.net/dcc/
> dcc.rhyolite.com has not been listed for months."
"1","In a message dated: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:03:57 CDT
Ulises Ponce said:

>Thanks Tony, but I think doing it using component files will get a .signature 
>by default, but I have many diferent signatures and I want to insert one of 
>that signatures using a keyboard command. So for a message I will insert a 
>signature, but for another message I will insert a different signature.
>
>Is it possible? I am using sedit for my messages.

Ahm, if you don't object to using a mouse for such things, exmh has 
the ability to insert different sigs on demand.  Create a bunch of 
different sig files, all beginning with .signature, and at start up, 
exmh will load them all.  In the Sedit window, you'll see a Sign...
menu item which will allow you to select between each of the listed 
.signature files for *that* e-mail.  You can actually use several if 
you'd like (though I don't remember what Preferences... option allows 
for this).

However, the signature gets added on send, not inserted directly into 
the existing Sedit window prior to composition.

I currently have 6 different sig files I can choose between.

Additionally, if a .signature file has the execute bit turned on, 
exmh will attempt to execute the file and use the stdout of the 
script as your signature.

I hope this helps some.
-- 

Seeya,
Paul
--
	It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing,
   but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away.

	 If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!"
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"1","I just saw the ISOs on an internal server here and was tempted....

	D.

-----Original Message-----
From: John P. Looney [mailto:valen@tuatha.org] 
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 3:45 PM
To: HAMILTON,DAVID (HP-Ireland,ex2)
Cc: 'ilug@linux.ie'
Subject: Re: [ILUG] Redhat 8.0


On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 03:22:54PM +0100, HAMILTON,DAVID (HP-Ireland,ex2)
mentioned:
> Does anyone know when Redhat 8.0 is going to be released?
> I have seen some ISO images of it around and I am trying to work out 
> if it's near release.

 Null, the third beta was out last week.

 It'll be an interesting release. Gnome 2.0, and GCC 3.2 - both very new,
large projects.

 I'd not be putting it on any production machines for a while...

 Though many say ""RedHat X.0 releases are rubbish"" - it's worth baring in
mind that they jump a release when the underlying archtechture changes, not
just the installer, so they are .0 for a reason.

Kate"
"-1","OWOLABI & ASSOCIATE,
FALOMO, IKOYI.
LAGOS - NIGERIA.


YOUR KIND ATTN.,



RE: REQUEST FOR MUTUALLY BENEFITTING ENDEAVOUR.

I humbly crave your indulgence in sending you this
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I am Barrister Kola Owolabi( attorney at law), I
represent Alhaji Ishmaila Ibrahim Gwarzo’s estates. Alhaji Gwarzo was the chief
security advicer of the then military leader of this country(Nigeria) in the
person of Late General Sani Abacha who died on the 8th of June 1998. With the
advent of a new democratic
dispensation in the country under the leadership of
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happened was that he had part of the funds transferred
from the vaults of the Central Bank Of Nigeria to this
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then president. But before the purchase could take
place the president died. My client has decided to
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confisticated by the present regime. But due to his
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Principal Partner. Owolabi & Associates"
"1","I think I'll ask this question again, as I sent on friday afternoon.  :-) 

Justin 

> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone point me to a howto on running mailing lists. Not looking for
> anything that is  package specific, but rather something that 
> gives general
> info on the various Email headers and dealing with returned 
> mails, errors in
> transport etc..
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Justin"
"1","> On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, John P. Looney wrote:
> >  Sun's hardware in general is more reliable,
> ROFL. not in our experience.

Well at least our Caps-Lock keys work:

peter@staunton.ie said:
> Another problem. I have a Dell branded keyboard and if I hit Caps-Lock
> twice, the whole machine crashes (in Linux, not Windows) - even the on/
> off switch is inactive, leaving me to reach for the power cable
> instead.

:-P

bauwolf@indigo.ie said:
> as if he wanted Solaris 9 for x86, he'd be waiting a bit
erm... it runs Solaris x86 as standard...

Cheers,
~Al

-- 
Expressed in this posting are my opinions.  They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth."
"1","> Apols if this has been posted before:
> 
> http://www.pinkpaperclips.net/subs/quiz2.html
>
So, anyone who isn't Beaker?

TimC
Meep"
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"1","//this function should print all numbers up to 100...

void print_nums()
{
  int i;

  for(i = 0; i < 10l; i++) {
    printf(""%d\n"",i);
  }

}"
"1","> I just had to jump in here as Carbonara is one of my favourites to make and 
> ask 
> what the hell are you supposed to use instead of cream? 

Isn't it just basically a mixture of beaten egg and bacon (or pancetta, 
really)? You mix in the raw egg to the cooked pasta and the heat of the pasta 
cooks the egg. That's my understanding.

Martin"
"1","On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Robert Harley wrote:


--]It's an amusing anecdote, I don't know if it's true or not, but certainly
--]nothing here supports the authoritative sounding conclusion ""Status: False"".
--]

So thats the trick, just let any anecdotal utterances you LIKE be deemed
true until proven false, and then hold other data to the opposite
standard...

Yeah, I see how that could be a handy tool RH.


(before teh lablemongers are out and about, I could give a shit what
BubbaU utters, its all shite. Kill your idols folks, your slips are
showing)

-tom

http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork"
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"1","from http://www.arstechnica.com/

""There has mostly been talk thus far and little action, but the Department
of Justice says it may be ready to file criminal lawsuits against
individuals [1] who distribute or receive unauthorized copyrighted
material over the Internet. Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Malcolm believes
that ""criminal prosecutions of copyright offenders are now necessary to
preserve the viability of America's content industries."" Malcolm also
believes that people who trade copyrighted material think they are
participating in a legal activity. I certainly think people who download
copyrighted works understand that such distribution--barring provisions
such as fair use--is not authorized, and it is not surprising to see
businesses continue to look for means to discourage distribution of
copyrighted works.


""Some prosecutions that make that clear could be very helpful...I think
they would think twice if they thought there was a risk of criminal
prosecution,"" said [RIAA President Cary] Sherman, who was on the same
conference panel.

I'm not too confident that lawsuits would have the effect Sherman is
hoping for. Although infrequent, there have already been civil suits or
warnings issued to private individuals, and they have served as minor
deterrents to the file-sharing community at large. Criminal lawsuits
carrying with them the possibility of prison sentences may generate
further animosity against groups such as the RIAA and may be difficult to
initiate because of the ""schooling"" effect of millions of systems
participating in file sharing. Only servers would seem to stand out from
the crowd.

The article cites the No Electronic Theft (NET) Act [2], which defines
illegal  activity and maximum penalties for copyright infringement:


Criminal infringement: Any person who infringes a copyright willfully for
purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or by the
reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any
180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more
copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000....
For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction or distribution
of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish
willful infringement.
...
The term ""financial gain"" includes receipt, or expectation of receipt, of
anything of value, including the receipt of other copyrighted works.


Therefore, receipt of a work of value would be defined as ""financial gain""
even if no money is involved. The NET Act excerpt does not clarify how the
value of a work is determined; an album or movie could be worth only $15
to millions of dollars depending on whether the value is assessed from the
perspective of the consumer or copyright holder.

The statute of limitations:


507. Limitations on actions

(a) Criminal Proceedings.--No criminal proceeding shall be maintained
under the provisions of this title unless it is commenced within five
years after the cause of action arose.

(b) Civil Actions.--No civil action shall be maintained under the
provisions of this title unless it is commenced within three years after
the claim accrued.

The penalties are too extensive to list here, but they can be found in
Section 2319: Criminal infringement of a copyright. In general, first-time
criminal offenses will carry a maximum prison sentence of 1 year.

I'm still not sure where the DOJ would start in choosing people to
prosecute because of the aforementioned ""schooling"" effect, but my guess
would be that, just like speeding, primarily the most prominent
individuals who operate large servers or transfer the most data will be
targeted in order to discourage more recreational file sharers. Thanks to
MonaLisaOverdrive for pointing out this story.
""

[1] http://news.com.com/2100-1023-954591.html?tag=fd_top
[2] http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/17-18red.htm

http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork"
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"1","Can someone explain what type of operating system Solaris is... as ive never
seen or used it i dont know wheather to get a server from Sun or from DELL i
would prefer a linux based server and Sun seems to be the one for that but
im not sure if Solaris is a distro of linux or a completely different
operating system? can someone explain...

Kiall Mac Innes"
"1","According to my son, it was actually Homer Simpson, who claimed the 
French had no word for victory.

Chuck

On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 01:58 PM, Robert Harley wrote:

> An apparent quote from Dubya, from the Times (sent to me by my Dad):
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-43-351083,00.html
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> TONY BLAIR's special relationship with George W. Bush is under
> considerable strain. Not only do the two disagree on Yassir Arafat's
> tenure as leader of the Palestinian Authority, but Blair has started
> telling disparaging anecdotes about the President.
>
> Baroness Williams of Crosby recalled a story told to her by 'my good
> friend Tony Blair' recently in Brighton. Blair, Bush and Jacques
> Chirac were discussing economics and, in particular, the decline of
> the French economy. 'The problem with the French,' Bush confided in
> Blair, 'is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur.'
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> R
> http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
>

http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork"
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Receiver: China Enterprise Management Co., Ltd. (CMC)
E-mail: unido@chinatop.net

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existing ones.
I came to know of you in my search for a reliable and
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sum of money to a foreign account. 

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United
State Dollars). This amount has now been approved and
is now ready to be transferred being that the
companies
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fully Paid and the projects officially commissioned. 


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Kindly expedite action as we are behind schedule to
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which would constitute the new quarter payments
for the 2002 financial year. 

Thank you and God bless.

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"1","Has anyone seen/heard of/used some package that would let a random person 
go to a webpage, create a mailing list, then administer that list.  Also 
of course let ppl sign up for the lists and manage their subscriptions. 
Similar to the old listbot.org, but i'd like to have it running on my 
server not someone elses :)

Chris

http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork"
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Please reply to 
Receiver: China Enterprise Management Co., Ltd. (CMC)
E-mail: unido@chinatop.net

As one technical organization supported by China Investment and Technical Promotion Office of United Nation Industry Development Organization (UNIDO), we cooperate closely with the relevant Chinese Quality Supervision and Standardization Information Organization. We provide the most valuable consulting services to help you to open Chinese market within the shortest time:

1. Consulting Service on Mandatory National Standards of The People's Republic of China.

2. Consulting Service on Inspection and Quarantine Standards of The People's Republic of China.

3. Consulting Service for Permission to Enter Chinese Market

We are very sorry to disturb you! 

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"1","Date:        Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:40:39 -0500
    From:        Chris Garrigues <cwg-dated-1030376441.95dd45@DeepEddy.Com>
    Message-ID:  <1029944441.398.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com>

  | The background color in this window is the same as the background 
  | color in the ftoc.

That's what I'd like to vary - particularly as the ftoc background isn't
constant - messages in the unseen sequence have a different background
than others.

In the ftoc that's fine, but in the sequences window, it isn't needed.
unseen already has a different foreground there (no problem with that),
it doesn't need a different background as well.

I'll play about a bit with this, and with making it vertical instead of
horizontal, and see what turns up.

  | The only sequences that are defined there are sequences which are defined
  | in app-defaults-color or ~/exmh/exmh-defaults-color.

OK.

  | I've been thinking about how to dynamically generate highlighting for
  | other sequences, but haven't got that figured out yet.

In this case, highlighting wasn't what I was most concerned about.
A method to get messages in & out of sequences comes first, how it
displays is a secondary consideration.   But as a suggestion, have an
""all unknown"" sequence highlight, any message in a sequence which has
no defined highlighting (where defined includes defined to not be treated
specially) gets highlighted the same way (maybe something as boring as
a dark brown text colour - almost indistinguishable from the normal black)


  | > > Any chance of making the current message a little brighter background?
  | 
  | I don't see any reason why not.  Experiment and let me know what works for you.

Done some of that.   First, the most significant change came from changing
relief from raised to sunken.   I don't know why, but it just looks better
(for me anyway).   But even with that, cur and unseen are still just a
bit too similar.   I ended up using

*sequence_cur:  -background {PaleGoldenrod} -relief sunken -borderwidth 2

The unnecessary braces are just because some of the colours I was using
had spaces in their names.   PaleGoldenrod translates as #eee8aa which
is probably safer for generic use.

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"1","On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 04:14:17PM +0100, Paul Jakma mentioned:
> On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, kevin lyda wrote:
> 
> > gnu date is limited by time_t.  but i thought time_t expired in 2037?
> > this seems to show it expiring in 2038:
> 
> (2^31-1)/3600/24/365+1970
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> 
> course, on UltraSparc, x86-64, IA64, alpha, etc:
> 
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> 
> so we should be safe enough.

 May I assume that x86-64 will be able to use a 64bit time_t too? 

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"1","XviD [1] is a project to make GPL divx codecs. Sigma Designs [1] is a
company  looking to put out hardware to playback, amongst other things,
divx files. Problem is Sigma is using XviDs gpled code in ways not very
gpl. The  results....XviD stops work on thier code and ask the users to
put preasure  on Sigma to honor the GPL.

Some notes from other places....

>>From Doom9 [3]
""XviD development has been stopped! The Sigma Designs REALMagic MPEG-4
Video Codec contains wide portions of code taken from the XviD project.
Soon after the initial release of the REALMagic codec the XviD developers
have contacted Sigma and informed them about the GPL violation (for those
who don't know, XviD is distributed under the GNU Public License - GPL -
which demands that if you modify a GPL program you have to release it
under the GPL, which in this case means that the source code of the Sigma
codec must be freely available). Sigma promised to replace the stolen
code, but the new version of the codec which was released this month only
disguises the stolen code, it was not actually removed. Sigma was once
again contacted and asked to remove the offending code but until today
nothing has happened. Therefore the XviD team is now turning to the public
in the hope to receive wide public support in their efforts to convince
Sigma Designs to respect the terms of the GPL. And until the matter has
been resolved XviD development will not continue.

That being said I hope all the forum members who saw their threads about
the Sigma Codecs being closed will understand our motivation now.
Internally we already knew what was going on but since the XviD authors
first wanted to try and resolve this internally we respected their wishes
and kept quiet about the matter at hand.

[Update] Sigma has issued a press release announcing the availability of
the source code of their MPEG-4 codec and it's already up for download.
However, not a word was lost about the XviD issue and the press release
makes one think that the Sigma codec was entirely developed by Sigma so we
might be hearing more about this.

[Update] I found a GPL notice in some of the source code files, but it
also looks like Sigma placed their own copyright lines there and XviD
doesn't get any credit in the source either. The GPL notice also collides
with Sigma's Software Licensing Agreement that you have to sign before
downloading codec or source. On on the same issue DivXNetworks said they'd
fully support XviD in this issue and apparently DXn's relationship with
Sigma didn't really work out either, as Sigma's Xcard is not as DivX
compatible as it was advertised.

[Update]First an update on the XviD situation. The release of the Sigma
source code does not mean it's all over, it's far from being over. The
license agreement which you have to agree to before you can download, and
install the codec is not compatible with the GPL. Furthermore, it can now
clearly be seen (download the source code and have a look for yourself)
that the Sigma codec is pretty much a copy of the XviD codec, but all the
copyright notices of the original developers have been removed and
replaced. This does not only violate the GPL but copyright laws - you
can't just take a program, change a few lines and change the copyright
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"1",">                                 You have multiple generations of
> peasants/squatters that cultivate and live on the lands almost as a
> human parts of the property package.

When I'd read that ""getting legal title
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(and helped by the Cairo reference) I'd
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urban poor.

If I see people living in mansions, or
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If I see people living in shanties and
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whatever the Spanish used to divvy up the
land) and it takes decades of arguing to
put together a package which somehow can
both compensate the owner and record lots
for the inhabitants.  Just transferring
title to an existing lot, between parties
who have money, ought not to be a problem.

The obvious solution, at least to us
barking farting chihuahuas on FoRK, is
to ""introduce market mechanisms"".  It is
left as an exercise to come up with one
which works when many of the agents (are
perceived to) have negligible NPV.

-Dave

>              [land reform] meant that all the agricultural producers had
> to plant crops all the time (profitable or not) ...

What happened to more highly-capitalized
land?  Putting in trees instead of crops
sounds like it might sidestep that.

> Mr. Long, I think you'd particularly enjoy the De Soto work.

On the ""to find"" list.  Any chance of
an explanation of that ""Bell Jar"" in
the meantime?

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"1","Manoj Kasichainula wrote;
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>
>Status:   False.

Status: Crap.


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So some guy failed to reach the source, but instead got spin doctor to
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It's an amusing anecdote, I don't know if it's true or not, but certainly
nothing here supports the authoritative sounding conclusion ""Status: False"".


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"1","On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Russell Turpin wrote:

> Adam Beberg:
> >Considering 90% of the fake job posting I see are for embedded systems or
> >device drivers - C still rules the world.
>
> There is a lot of C++ in the embedded world. With static object
> allocation and a few other programming techniques, performance
> differences disappear, but C++ gives a boost in development and
> maintainability.

Agreed, not much difference there. With C it just doesnt seem as wrong to
be crawling around in registers and things. Quite frankly you cant fit
_that_ big of a project into a 32K ROM, so large project issues dont matter
as much in the embedded world.

And in the realtime space, or when you have data coming in at 2Gbit/sec
[fibrechannel], every cycle DOES count.

> The real issue is compiler availability. Almost every embedded platform
> has C cross-compilers. Many have C++ compilers. But there is still a
> range of platforms that have the first but not the second. Or at least,
> that was the story a few years ago.

Definately still very very true. C++ compilers are still a rarity.


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"1","At 17:10 22/08/2002 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> > apologies for the possible silly question (i don't think it is, but),
> > but is Eircom's aDSL service NAT'ed?
>
>No - you get unfiltered access with a real (but dynamic) IP address.
>
> > and what implications would that have for VoIP? I know there are
> > difficulties with VoIP or connecting to clients connected to a NAT'ed
> > network from the internet wild (i.e. machines with static, real IPs)
>
>You will probably suffer from the high latency of DLS lines.  Typically,
>you're talking about 50ms RTT to the local bas, which is pretty high.
>If your voip application can handle this, then you're ok.
>
>Nick

what's the deal with all this latency? it's not like that in other places 
where I've used dsl. i read some story about it being done that way to 
allow greater distances to be covered or something like that. however, my 
knowledge of physics is really only newtonian, and I don't understand how 
worsening latency could possibly improve the reliability of a 2000 foot 
long piece of copper. Perhaps it has something to do with stretching the 
time-space continuum? can someone explain this in words of five syllables 
or less?

a.



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"1","On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Robert Harley wrote:

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"1","On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 05:13:01PM +0100, Fergal Moran mentioned:
> In a nutshell - Solaris is Suns own flavour of UNIX.

 Though I'm sure that this nice person would like a bit more detail.

 Solaris is quite different to Linux, though these days you can make
solaris act a lot like linux with an extra CD of GNU tools Sun ship with
solaris. It is based on the SysV unix family, so it's quite similar to
other unixen like HPUX and SCO.

 Sun's hardware in general is more reliable, and a lot more expensive. One
of the main bonuses you get by buying Sun is that you are getting your
hardware and software from one company, so if you have a support contract,
they have to fix it. They can't fob you off with 'that's a software
problem, talk to the software vendor.' etc.

 If you are set on Linux, you most likely can do your own support. There
is then a world of different hardware options. You can run Linux on Sparc,
though some companies like RedHat don't maintain a sparc port anymore.

 You can also buy your machine from linux-oriented companies like DNUK,
who do machines designed to run linux, and their own version of linux,
that has a few extras for their machines. Or, you can get a machine from a
cheaper company like Dell, and it'll most likely work, most of the time.

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It even looks like the modem's embedded OS is some kind of linux, being that
it has interesting interfaces like eth0.

I don't use it as a router though.... I just have it do the absolute minimum
DSL stuff and do all the really fun stuff like pppoe on my linux box........

Also the manual tells you what the default password is.

Don't forget to run pppoe over the alcatel speedtouch 350i as in my case you
'HAVE TO' have a bridge configured in the router/modem's software........
This lists your VCI values etc.


> Also, does anyone know if the high-end SpeedTouch, with
> 4 ethernet ports, can act as a full router or do I still
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is a standard. However, CIPE does the job as well for Linux clients and is
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So, the question is for those of you have have implemented BOTH - is there a
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    E> Gary's news service at teledyn.com has an article on Internet
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"1","< >
> I downloaded a driver from the nVidia website and installed it using RPM.
> Then I ran Sax2 (as was recommended in some postings I found on the net),
but
> it still doesn't feature my video card in the available list. What next?


hmmm.

Peter.

Open a terminal and as root type
lsmod
you want to find a module called
NVdriver.

If it isn't loaded then load it.
#insmod NVdriver.o
Oh and ensure you have this module loaded on boot.... else when you reboot
you might be in for a nasty surprise.

Once the kernel module is loaded

#vim /etc/X11/XF86Config

in the section marked
Driver I have ""NeoMagic""
you need to have
Driver ""nvidia""

Here is part of my XF86Config

Also note that using the card you are using you 'should' be able to safely
use the FbBpp 32 option .

Section ""Module""
 Load  ""extmod""
 Load  ""xie""
 Load  ""pex5""
 Load  ""glx""
 SubSection ""dri""    #You don't need to load this Peter.
  Option     ""Mode"" ""666""
 EndSubSection
 Load  ""dbe""
 Load  ""record""
 Load  ""xtrap""
 Load  ""speedo""
 Load  ""type1""
EndSection

#Plus the Modelines for your monitor should be singfinicantly different.

Section ""Monitor""
 Identifier   ""Monitor0""
 VendorName   ""Monitor Vendor""
 ModelName    ""Monitor Model""
 HorizSync    28.00-35.00
 VertRefresh  43.00-72.00
        Modeline ""800x600"" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625
 Modeline ""1024x768"" 49 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806
EndSection

Section ""Device""

 Identifier  ""Card0""
 Driver      ""neomagic"" #Change this to ""nvidia""... making sure the modules
are in the correct path
 VendorName  ""Neomagic"" # ""Nvidia""
 BoardName   ""NM2160""
 BusID       ""PCI:0:18:0""
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Section ""Screen""
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 Monitor    ""Monitor0""
 DefaultDepth 24
 SubSection ""Display""
  Depth     1
 EndSubSection
 SubSection ""Display""
  Depth     4
 EndSubSection
 SubSection ""Display""
  Depth     8
 EndSubSection
 SubSection ""Display""
  Depth     15
 EndSubSection
 SubSection ""Display""
  Depth     16
 EndSubSection
 SubSection ""Display""
  Depth     24
  #FbBpp   32 #Ie you should be able lto uncomment this line
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desired.
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>This thread kind of surprises me... I started coding with C, then C++, and
>moved on to Java... And, I think that:

Looks like a case of ""MY experience is comprehensive, YOUR'S is
anecdotal, THEY don't know what they're talking about"".


>1.  The people who pay the wages don't give a flyin' heck what programming
>language you write things in... they just want it to work.

In my experience, they do care.  It has to work certainly, and in
particular it has to work with what they've already got, and it has to
work on client's systems.

My limited experience of Java started a few years ago when support on
Linux was so terrible that I ran away screaming and haven't come back yet.

Microsoft has announced that they plan to remove Java from Windows.
They took it out of XP already and it has to be installed with a
service pack.  Somehow, I can't imagine them removing the ability to
run C programs.


>2.  C and C++ forces the developer to solve problems such as memory
>management over and over again.

Can't say I spend any noticeable amount of time on memory management
issues, apart from the fact that I frequently need > 4 GB.


>It's about design patterns, architecture, high level stuff...

If your problem just requires application of a ""design pattern"" to solve,
then it's trivial anyway irrespective of language.


>I am amazed by the amount of time wasted by people talking about low
>level problems that have been solved 10 million times over and over
>and over again...

You appear to be gratuitously asserting that C programmers waste time
on irrelevant low-level problems and Java programmers don't.  Depends
entirely on the programmer, not the language.


>3.  Java is not just a programming language! It's also a platform...

Buzzword.


>a monolithic set of API's or a crap load of different API's slicing
>and dicing the same problems 50 different ways?

Unsupported assertion.


>4.  If you have a program of any type of high complexity written in C, you
>can't possibly think that you could port it to different platforms within
>the same magnitude of cost as Java....

Dunno.  E.g., I ported a wee 15000-line C program to Darwin on PowerPC
in a few minutes yesterday.  Sure if it was badly designed it would be
10 times the size and harder to port.  If it depended on unavailable
libraries it would be much harder.  Portable code is easy to port.
At least that is the case when then language you used is available on
the target platform: I also run on ARM systems with no proper Java.


>5.  Makes no sense for a scientific or a business project to depend on a
>person... Java, IMHO, reduces the dependence of these entities on the
>individual developer as it is much easier to reverse engineer Java as it is
>to reverse engineer C (large applications).

You can pay a good programmer to solve your problem now, or else get
some kids to hack spaghetti Fortran in any language and then pay for
maintenance headaches ad infinitum.

 
>6.  Hardware is getting so fast that I'm not sure if the performance
>difference between Java and C/C++ are relevant any more.

Whoah!!!  Performance matters to me every day.  (Right now I'm taking
time out to write email while waiting for a job to run).  Sure I could
wait 5 years until everyone's PC is fast enough to generate random EC's
in no time, when any twit will be able to program inefficient code
that is fast enough and the market will be overrun by competitors,
or I can do it now when very few people can.

 
>The end goal is the scientific or business problem to be solved.

Yes.


>And for those problems, languages such as Java, SmallTalk, and others
>allow you to think more high level than low level.  Thinking of bits
>and bytes takes too much gray matter away from the real important
>problems....

It's true!  I admit everything!  Mea maxima culpa!  Working in C makes
me spend all day thinking base, rank thoughts about hard-core bitography!
Not.

Actually I spend most of my time thinking in high-level mathematics.


>Why do most computer scientists insist on solving the same problems
>over and over again [...]

Dunno, and frankly I don't see the relevance to the issue at hand.


I'm sure Java is fine for some stuff, as is C or whatever.  Horses for
courses.


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=""Times New Roman"" size=3>Dear 
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Startup 
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in"".<BR><BR>          Pam 
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Jersey<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Here 
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YOUR<BR>     ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any 
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*****When you place your order, make 
sure<BR>               
you order each of the 5 reports *****<BR><BR>You will need all 5 reports so that 
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X 5 = $25.00<BR><BR>**********Within a few days you will receive, via e-mail, 
each<BR>of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals.  Save<BR>them 
on your computer so they will be accessible for you to<BR>send to the 1,000's of 
people who will order them from you.<BR>Also make a floppy of these reports and 
keep it at your desk<BR>in case something happens to your 
computer.<BR><BR>**********IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the 
people<BR>who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the <BR>list, 
in any way other than what is intructed below in steps<BR>1 through 6 or you 
will lose out on the majority of your profits.<BR>Once you understand the way 
this works, you will also see how<BR>it does not work if you change 
it.<BR><BR>Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter,<BR>it will 
NOT work!!!<BR><BR>People have tried to put their friends/relatives names 
on<BR>all five thinking they could get all the money.  But it does<BR>not 
work this way.  Believe us, we have tried to be greedy<BR>and then nothing 
happened.<BR><BR>So do not try to change anything other than what is 
instructed.<BR>Because if you do, it will not work for you.  
Remember,<BR>honesty reaps the reward!!!<BR><BR>1. After you have ordered all 5 
reports, take this <BR>advertisement and REMOVE the name and address of the 
person in<BR>REPORT # 5.  This person has made it through the cycle and is 
<BR>no doubt counting their fortune.<BR><BR>2. Move the name & address in 
REPORT #4 down to REPORT #5.<BR>3. Move the name & address in REPORT #3 down 
to REPORT #4.<BR>4. Move the name & address in REPORT #2 down to REPORT 
#3.<BR>5. Move the name & address in REPORT #1 down to REPORT #2.<BR>6. 
Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT #1 Position.<BR><BR>PLEASE MAKE 
SURE you copy every name & 
address<BR>ACCURATELY!<BR>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Take 
this entire letter, with the modified list of names,<BR>and save it on your 
computer.  DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER<BR>CHANGES.  Save this on a disk as 
well just in case you loose<BR>any data.<BR><BR>To assist you with marketing 
your business on the Internet,<BR>the 5 reports you purchase will provide you 
with invaluable<BR>marketing information that includes:  How to send bulk 
e-mails<BR>legally, Where to find thousand of free classified ads and <BR>much, 
much more.<BR><BR>There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture 
going:<BR><BR>   METHOD #1:  SENDING BULK E-MAIL 
LEGALLY<BR>   
---------------------------------------------------------<BR>Let's say that you 
decide to start small, just to see how<BR>it goes, and we'll assume you and 
those involved send out<BR>only 5,000 emails each.  Let's also assume that 
the mailing<BR>receives only a 0.2% response (the response could be 
much<BR>better but lets just say it is only 0.2%.  Also, many 
people<BR>will send out hundreds of thousands of e-mails instead of<BR>only 
5,000 each).<BR><BR>Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 
e-mails.<BR>With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for Report #1.<BR>Those 
10 people resonded by sending out 5,000 e-mails each<BR>for a total of 
50,000.  Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2%<BR>responded with 
orders.  That's 100 people responded and<BR>ordered Report #2.  Those 
100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails<BR>each for a total of 500,000 e-mails.  
The 0.2% response to <BR>that is 1000 orders for Report #3.<BR><BR>Thoe 1000 
people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of<BR>5 million e-mails sent 
out.  The 0.2% response to that is<BR>10,000 orders for Report #4.  
Those 10,000 people send out<BR>5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 
million)<BR>e-mails.  the 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders 
for<BR>Report #5.<BR><BR>THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH = 500,000<BR>(a 
half a million).<BR><BR>     Your total income in this 
example is:<BR>     1......$50 +<BR>     
2......$500 +<BR>     3......$5,000 
+<BR>     4......$50,000 +<BR>     
5......$500,000 .................. Grand Total = 
$555,550.00<BR><BR>     NUMBERS DO NOT LIE.  GET A 
PENCIL & PAPER AND<BR>     FIGURE OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE 
RESPONSES AND <BR>     NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU 
WILL<BR>     STILL MAKE A LOT OF 
MONEY!<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>     
REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10<BR>     PEOPLE 
ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 PEOPLE YOU MAILED.<BR><BR>Dare to think for a moment what 
would happen if everyone,<BR>or 1/2, or even 1/5 of those people mailed 100,000 
e-mails<BR>each or more?  There are over 250 million people on the 
<BR>Internet worldwide and counting.  Believe me, many people<BR>will do 
just that, and more!<BR><BR>     METHOD #2:  PLACING 
FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET<BR>    
<BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Advertising 
on the net is very, very inexpensive and there<BR>are hundreds of FREE places to 
advertise.  Placing a lot of<BR>free ads on the internet will easily get a 
larger response.<BR>We strongly suggest you start with method # 1 and add 
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is e-mail them the <BR>Report they ordered.  That's it!  Always 
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e-mails<BR>they send out, with your name and address on it, will be<BR>prompt 
because they can not advertise until they receive 
the<BR>report.<BR><BR>     ORDER EACH REPORT BY IT NUMBER 
& NAME ONLY.<BR><BR>Note:  Always send $5 cash (US Currency) for each 
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sheets of paper, write the NUMBER and the NAME<BR>of the Report you are 
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"1","http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/nireland/ni_team.shtml	

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"1","On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
--]Why wait until you're dead? I'm sure there's enough carbon in
--]the fat from your typical liposuction job to make a decent diamond.

So thats why I keep seeing DeBeers agents hovering around me.

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"1","Hi all,

apologies for the possible silly question (i don't think it is, but), 
but is Eircom's aDSL service NAT'ed?

and what implications would that have for VoIP? I know there are 
difficulties with VoIP or connecting to clients connected to a NAT'ed 
network from the internet wild (i.e. machines with static, real IPs)

any help pointers would be helpful,

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"1","Just got this ... I was just reading mail, but in a very dark
room, where the keyboard is illuminated mostly by the light from
the (laptop) screen.   I think I put my fingers on the wrong keys.
(I mostly use the keyboard exclusively while running exmh).

This is from today's cvs (the fixes for the problems I mentioned
yesterday are included) - I eventually managed to contact the cvs
server.

expected integer but got """"
    while executing
""incr m""
    (procedure ""MhSeqExpand"" line 12)
    invoked from within
""MhSeqExpand $folder $msgids""
    (procedure ""MhSeq"" line 2)
    invoked from within
""MhSeq $folder $seq $how $oldmsgids $msgids""
    (procedure ""Mh_SequenceUpdate"" line 54)
    invoked from within     
""Mh_SequenceUpdate $folder replace $seq $msgids""
    (procedure ""Seq_Set"" line 4)
    invoked from within             
""Seq_Set $folder cur $msgid""
    (procedure ""Mh_SetCur"" line 7)      
    invoked from within                     
""Mh_SetCur $exmh(folder) $msgid""
    (procedure ""MsgChange"" line 5)              
    invoked from within                             
""MsgChange - noshow""
    invoked from within                                 
""time [list MsgChange $msgid $show""
    (procedure ""Msg_Change"" line 3)
    invoked from within                                     
""Msg_Change $select(sel) noshow""
    (procedure ""SelectTypein"" line 14)                          
    invoked from within
""SelectTypein .mid.right.top.msg -""
    (command bound to event)

kre

ps: I have the sequences window vertical instead of horizontal, and the
""colours from the ftoc"" stuff all deleted, and it is looking just about as
good as the old unseen window used to look.   I still have some work to
do to make it a little nicer (listboxes seem to have some strange habits)
and then I need to make it all optional and parameterized, at the minute
I'm just embedding stuff in the code, much quicker for prototyping.  Once
its done, I'll send a patch for someone to look over."
"1","On 23 Aug 2002 at 2:57, Robert Harley wrote:

> It's an amusing anecdote, I don't know if it's true or not,
> but certainly nothing here supports the authoritative
> sounding conclusion ""Status: False"".

I actually thought it was pretty funny and quite accurate.  Who cares if the spinmeisters are denying it?
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TONY BLAIR's special relationship with George W. Bush is under
considerable strain. Not only do the two disagree on Yassir Arafat's
tenure as leader of the Palestinian Authority, but Blair has started
telling disparaging anecdotes about the President.

Baroness Williams of Crosby recalled a story told to her by 'my good
friend Tony Blair' recently in Brighton. Blair, Bush and Jacques
Chirac were discussing economics and, in particular, the decline of
the French economy. 'The problem with the French,' Bush confided in
Blair, 'is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur.'
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works quite nicely but the only time I've seen an supposedly authentic recipe 
for carbonara  it was identical to mine (cream, eggs and lots of fresh parmesan) 
except for the creme fraiche.

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""razor-agent.log"" file. I was getting the same error, but
only as a non-root user.  As a quick workaround, you can do
""chmod go+w razor-agent.log"".

In Agent.pm, when then the Logger object is created, it
doesn't check whether the logfile is writable by the current
user. Then, when a write attempt is made, it bails out with
the ""unblessed reference"" error.

Hope that helps,
Michael

> I just noticed the following log entries in my syslog with the latest
> Spamassassin CVS (set up using spamc/spamd) and razor-agents 2.14:
>
> Jul 26 17:30:09 timmy spamd[54928]: razor2 check skipped: No such file or
> directory Can't call method ""log"" on unblessed reference at
> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm line 211,
> <STDIN> line 25.
>
> I saw this after checking if my upgrade from razor-agents 2.12 to 2.14 went
> okay, but the problem is still there after downgrading back to 2.12.  I
> don't really know when this started happening, :-/
>
> Any ideas on the problem?
>
> - Robert"
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"1","John P. Looney wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 05:13:01PM +0100, Fergal Moran mentioned:
> 
>>In a nutshell - Solaris is Suns own flavour of UNIX.
> 
> 
>  Though I'm sure that this nice person would like a bit more detail.
> 
>  Solaris is quite different to Linux, though these days you can make
> solaris act a lot like linux with an extra CD of GNU tools Sun ship with
> solaris. It is based on the SysV unix family, so it's quite similar to
> other unixen like HPUX and SCO.
> 
>  Sun's hardware in general is more reliable, and a lot more expensive. One
> of the main bonuses you get by buying Sun is that you are getting your
> hardware and software from one company, so if you have a support contract,
> they have to fix it. They can't fob you off with 'that's a software
> problem, talk to the software vendor.' etc.
> 
>  If you are set on Linux, you most likely can do your own support. There
> is then a world of different hardware options. You can run Linux on Sparc,
> though some companies like RedHat don't maintain a sparc port anymore.
> 
>  You can also buy your machine from linux-oriented companies like DNUK,
> who do machines designed to run linux, and their own version of linux,
> that has a few extras for their machines. Or, you can get a machine from a
> cheaper company like Dell, and it'll most likely work, most of the time.

Why do you say Dell is cheaper than DNUK?

It gets a bit complicated though!
http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html

Pádraig."
"1","I am trying to manage the email for a domain which I have hosted with
hosting365, and am trying to get the whole email send and receive thing
working nice and easily.
At the moment I have configured Fetchmail to poll the different pop3
mailboxes and deliver the mail accordingly, although it appears that I have
to have only one unix user being able to receive from each pop3 mailbox.
This could be a limitation of the fetchmailconf programme, I'm not sure, but
It would be much handier if I could just tell it to collect all of the mail
from the different mailboxes, and then deliver it locally according to the
""To:"" header instead of the pop3 mailbox it came from.
The other issue I am having is sending outgoing mail.  I have been trying to
use sendmail, but am finding it to be an absolute pain in the posterior, and
when the relay server will only accept outgoing connections if I have
checked for incoming mail in the last twenty minutes, and I don't know how
to set sendmail to run a command before it sends out the mail.  Do any of
the outgoing mailer programs, exim or postfix or whatever, have a 'nice'
configuration interface, or do they all have nice friendly configuration
files like sendmail.

Any suggestions of alternative solutions would be much appreciated.  There
are only three or four email addresses in my domain, and setting it up for
scheduled collection and either scheduled or immediate delivery would do me
fine.

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nobody user), that has no shell login, but has a default home directory 
or a place where it can hold passwords and keys.

The web application could then open an ssl connection (could be done in 
the init method at server startup) to get database passwords. The small 
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"1","Yes - great minds think alike. But even withput eval rules it would be very 
useful. It would allow us to respond quickly to spammer's tricks.

Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 07:27:52AM -0700, Marc Perkel wrote:
> 
>>Has anyone though of the idea of live updates of rules after release? The 
>>idea being that the user can run a cron job once a week or so and get the 
>>new default rule set. This would allow us to react faster to:
> 
> 
> I suggested this a few months ago.  I don't remember the details of what
> came out of it except that it would only be useful for non-eval rules
> since those require code changes.
>"
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Justin MacCarthy wrote:
| Is there a way to look for a particular file or directory in 100's of zip
| files??
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|
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|
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probably there are more elegant solutions, but if your zips are in one
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"1","SpamAssassin is hurting democracy!
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/3900215.htm

Internet can level the political playing field
By Mike McCurry and Larry Purpuro

NOT many months from now, people across the country will experience one 
of the great recurring features of American democracy. At shopping 
malls, on factory floors, at church socials and even on our front 
stoops, we will be approached by individuals who want to represent us in 
public office. While chances are high that we won't know them 
personally, they will walk up to us, offer a handshake and a flier and 
ask for our votes.

Just as technology is affecting every other area of communication, it 
has begun to affect the way political candidates communicate with voters.

In this year's GOP gubernatorial primary, California Secretary of State 
Bill Jones, who faced better-funded candidates, acquired the e-mail 
addresses of more than a million potential California voters and sent 
each an unsolicited e-mail asking for support.

That day, he might have chosen any of the more traditional -- and more 
expensive -- methods of contacting voters, such as direct mail, radio 
spots or TV ads. But he spent only about 2 cents per message, instead of 
35 cents or more per message for direct mail or in another medium.

Had Jones chosen direct mail, radio or TV, that communication would have 
been equally ``unsolicited,'' as defined in the e-mail world. Few voters 
would have ``opted in'' to receive campaign information from Jones 
through any of those channels.

The response to Jones' e-mail effort, however, was swift and intense. He 
was lambasted by anti-spam advocates, and media coverage was almost 
entirely negative. To be fair, some of Jones' tactics could have been 
refined. He used a less-than-perfect list and no standard-practice 
``paid for'' disclaimer in the message.

His detractors, however, attacked him not for his tactical miscues but 
because the e-mail was sent unsolicited. In fact, Jones' online campaign 
may have been his most visible asset. In an era of cynicism toward money 
in politics -- money typically spent on other unsolicited communication 
mediums -- Jones tried to level the playing field.

No one likes commercial spam. It is irrelevant and untargeted and can be 
highly intrusive and even offensive. But as a sophisticated society, 
it's time to differentiate commercial spam from very different 
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The debate is particularly relevant in light of legislation in Congress 
that would constitute the first federal law to directly address spam. We 
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simple link in good e-mail campaigns allows recipients to opt out of 
future mailings. Direct mail takes at least a phone call or stamp to be 
taken off a list, and viewers must repeatedly endure TV ads.

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Internet to provide constituents with information to better prepare them 
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accounts, it makes sense that political candidates use this medium.

Candidates might avoid some of the tactical problems encountered by the 
Jones campaign if they use the technologies available today that better 
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groups.

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an e-mail, that recipient can choose to delete the message without 
opening it, unsubscribe from the list, read it or even reply and engage 
the sender. That choice should belong to the voter -- not to anti-spam 
advocates whose efforts are better focused on commercial e-mail. 
Political candidates should be free to communicate with voters as best 
they can, and let voters decide what to do with that information.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike McCurry, former press secretary for President Clinton, is CEO of an 
advocacy management and communications software company. Larry Purpuro, 
the former Republican National Committee deputy chief of staff, is 
founder and president of a political e-marketing firm. This was written 
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"1","Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:

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>
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"1","On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 09:59  AM, Tom wrote:

> Post MG in the 80's there were the colums by A K Dewdney that I dug a
> bunch put into a book  called Turing Omnibus and then there is , of
> course, all the goodens put out by Dougy Hoffstadler.

A.K. Dewdney was the name I was looking for and the column was ""Computer 
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"1","Political mail (the snail kind) doesn't bother me.  I like it a lot of the 
time, because as crap as it is at least it's not the kind of info you get 
on TV.  Particularly for small time local politics, it's the best way to 
get information.

but what matters is that mail is speech, and political email has to be as
well protected as any other political speech.  Spam is *the* tool for
dissident news, since the face that it's unsolicited means that recipients
can't be blamed for being on a mailing list.






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"1","Whore eructed:
>--]It's an amusing anecdote, I don't know if it's true or not, but
>--]certainly nothing here supports the authoritative sounding conclusion
>--]""Status: False"".
>
>So thats the trick, just let any anecdotal utterances you LIKE be deemed
>true [...]

Exsqueeze me, but what part of ""I don't know if it's true or not""
did you fail to grok?  I personally doubt it simply because I never
heard of Bush and Chirac going to Brighton.

Next time I hear a joke, I promise not to laugh until I have checked
out primary sources for confirmation in triplicate, OK?  Good thing
we have you around to keep us on the straight and narrow, all the while
inundating us with such erudite profundities as ""Kill your idols folks"",
""fight the powers that be, from with out and from with in"" and innumerable
other dippy bromides.


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"1","If you haven't already, you should enable the debug log under
Hacking Support preferences and look for clues there.

>>>Reg Clemens said:
 > > Hi,
 > > 
 > > On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 00:05:03 MDT Reg Clemens wrote: 
 > >   
 > > [...]
 > > > in messages with GnuPG signatures.  But punching the line ALWAYS
 > > > gives
 > > > 
 > > >         Signature made Thu Aug 29 00:27:17 2002 MDT using DSA key ID BDD
     F997A
 > > >         Can't check signature: public key not found
 > > > 
 > > > So, something else is missing.
 > > 
 > > Yes, the public key of the signature you want to check :-).
 > > 
 > > Are you really sure that you have the public key of the message's
 > > signature? If not, try downloading it or try to check a signature from
 > > which you know you have the public key.
 > > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > 
 > Ah, sorry for not making that clearer.
 > But no.
 > Previously (v1.0.6 of GnuPG) there would be a slight pause at this point whi
     le
 > it went out to get the public key from a keyserver.
 > Now, whether I have the key or NOT, I get the failure message.
 > 
 > Its as if it cant find gpg to execute it (but I fixed that path), so there
 > must be something else that I am missing...
 > 
 > 
 > -- 
 >                                         Reg.Clemens
 >                                         reg@dwf.com
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 >"
"1","On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:33:44PM -0400, cmeclax po'u le cmevi'u ke'umri wrote:
> 
> Was it sent in HTML? If so, and it had a background, the background may have 
> been sent in a spam.

razor-agents 2.14 needs all parts to be spam to make a positive decision
(though this will change with the next release), so it couldn't have been
a background. Could you send me the debug log?

cheers,
vipul.

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"1","The Scotsman

 Thu 22 Aug 2002 

 Meaningful sentences 
 
 Tracey Lawson 
 
 
 If you ever wanted to look like ""one of the most dangerous inmates in prison
 history"", as one judge described Charles Bronson, now’s your chance. Bronson -
 the serial hostage taker, not the movie star - has written a health and
 fitness guide in which he shares some of the secrets behind his legendary
 muscle power. 
 
 Solitary Fitness - a title which bears testament to the fact that Bronson, 48,
 has spent 24 of his 28 prison years in solitary confinement - explains how he
 has turned himself into a lean, mean, fitness machine while living 23 hours a
 day in a space just 12 feet by eight feet, on a diet of scrubs grub and at
 virtually no cost. 
 
 The book is aimed at those who want to get fabulously fit without spending a
 fortune on gym memberships, protein supplements or designer trainers, and
 starts with a fierce attack on some of the expensive myths churned out by the
 exercise industry. 
 
 ""I pick up a fitness mag, I start to laugh and I wipe my arse with it,"" is the
 opening paragraph penned by Bronson. ""It’s a joke and a big con and they call
 me a criminal!"" You can’t help feeling he has a point. 
 
 This is not the first book that Bronson has written from behind bars, having
 already published Birdman Opens His Mind, which features drawings and poems
 created by Bronson while in prison. And he is not the first prisoner to
 discover creative expression while residing at Her Majesty’s pleasure. 
 
 Jimmy Boyle, the Scots sculptor and novelist, discovered his artistic talents
 when he was sent to Barlinnie Prison’s famous special unit, which aimed to
 help inmates put their violent pasts behind them by teaching them how to
 express their emotions artistically. Boyle was sentenced to life for the
 murder of ""Babs"" Rooney in 1967. Once released, he moved to Edinburgh where he
 has become a respected artist. His first novel, Hero of the Underworld, was
 published in 1999 and his autobiography, A Sense of Freedom, was made into an
 award-winning film. 
 
 Hugh Collins was jailed for life in 1977 for the murder of William Mooney in
 Glasgow, and in his first year in Barlinnie prison stabbed three prison
 officers, earning him an extra seven-year sentence. But, after being
 transferred to the same unit that Boyle attended, he learned to sculpt and
 developed an interest in art. He later published Autobiography of a Murderer,
 a frank account of Glasgow’s criminal culture in the 1960s, which received
 critical praise. 
 
 And Lord Archer doesn’t seem to have had trouble continuing to write the books
 that have made him millions while in jail. He recently signed a three-book
 deal with Macmillan publishers worth a reported £10 million, and is no doubt
 scribbling away as we speak. 
 
 So why is it that men like Collins, Bronson and Boyle, who can be so
 destructive towards society on the outside, can become so creative once stuck
 on the inside? Steve Richards, Bronson’s publisher, has published many books
 about criminal figures and believes the roots of this phenomenon are both
 pragmatic and profound. 
 
 He says: ""Prison is sometimes the first time some criminals will ever have
 known a stable environment, and this can be the first time they have the
 chance to focus on their creative skills. 
 
 ""It may also be the first time that they have really had the chance of an
 education, if their early years have been hard. It could be the first time
 anyone has offered them the chance to explore their creative talents."" 
 
 However, Richards believes the reasons are also deeper than that. He says:
 ""Once they are behind bars, the cold light of day hits them, and they examine
 the very essence of who they are. 
 
 ""They ask themselves, am I a man who wants to be remembered for violence? Or
 am I a man who can contribute to society, who can be remembered for something
 good?"" 
 
 Bronson - who was born Michael Gordon Peterson, but changed his name to that
 of the Hollywood star of the Death Wish films - has, so far, been remembered
 mainly for things bad. He was originally jailed for seven years for armed
 robbery in 1974, and has had a series of sentences added to his original term
 over the years as a result of attacking people in prison. In 2000 he was
 jailed for life after being convicted of holding a teacher hostage for nearly
 two days during a jail siege. 
 
 Standing five feet ten and a half inches tall and weighing 210lbs, he is
 renowned for his strength. He has bent metal cell doors with his bare hands
 and does up to 3,000 - yes, 3,000 - press-ups a day. As he puts it: ""I can hit
 a man 20 times in four seconds, I can push 132 press ups in 60 seconds."" 
 
 But judging by our current obsession with health and exercise, Solitary
 Fitness might be the book which will see Bronson’s face sitting on every
 coffee table in the land. He might be the man to give us the dream body which
 so many so-called fitness gurus promise but fail to motivate us into. Because
 Bronson has learned to use words as powerfully as he can use his fists. 
 
 ""All this crap about high-protein drinks, pills, diets, it’s just a load of
 bollocks and a multi-million-pound racket,"" he writes, in what can only be
 described as a refreshingly honest style. ""We can all be fat lazy bastards,
 it’s our choice, I’m sick of hearing and reading about excuses, if you stuff
 your face with shit you become shit, that’s logical to me."" 
 
 As motivational mantras go, that might be just the kick up the, er, backside
 we all needed. 
 
 
 Solitary Fitness by Charles Bronson is published by Mirage Publishing and will
 be available in bookstores from October at £7.99"
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STUDENT LIFE BEGINS WITH LINUX
by
John Sterne

The launch last month of a marketing special interest group by the
Irish Linux Users Group (ILUG)  -  open source and marketing, it
seems, might not be mutually exclusive concepts  -  has already
sparked an interesting initiative at University College Cork.  When
the new academic year begins at UCC, every incoming student will
be offered a copy of Red Hat Linux 7.3.

ILUG member Braun Brelin proposed this promotion, when he ran a
training class for staff at the UCC computer science department.
Brelin, who is the director of technology at OpenApp, says that the
Linux offer could be extended to any or all of the other Irish
universities.

The user group is tapping into an international Red Hat programme
that aims to introduce students at all levels to the open source
style of computing.  The Linux distributor runs an 'educational
channel' to reach this audience, bundling educational software
with its operating environment and offering networked support
services to eligible applicants.  This scheme was originally designed
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schools and universities throughout the world.

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features and is intended to counter objections that Linux is hard to
master on personal systems.

The Linux-for-all project at UCC could also raise the profile of Red
Hat Ireland.  Based in Cork, this operation has run shared financial
services for other Red Hat offices in Europe since 2000.  Until now
its involvement with users in Ireland has been fairly limited,
although it does sometimes refer them to other Red Hat offices in
Europe that offer consulting or technical support services.

David Owens, Red Hat's director of global logistics and production,
sees the formation of the ILUG marketing group as a reason to take
a more proactive approach.  In the last three months, he notes, his
office in Cork has received more and more calls from Irish
companies that are interested in adopting Linux and has introduced
some to Red Hat pre-sales consultants.


-------------
Many thanks are due to Braun and David for working together on this one.

Regards
L."
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"1","Dan Brickley wrote:
> Except that thanks to the magic of spam, it's usually some else's locale

yeah, physical mail makes more sense for physical locales.

> There are better technical solutions to privacy
> protection than sending a copy of the same message to everyone on the
> Internet, so the recipients can't be blamed for reading it.

Such as?

Anything equivalent will be spam, just not email spam.  Dump entry IPs for
an anonymizing network onto a public bulletin board that's used for other
purposes -- still spam.  Etc etc.

I'm not arguing against other solutions, I'm arguing that spam is speech.  
If you let governments ban it, you're giving them the power to choose who 
gets to speak.

- Lucas



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"1","Once upon a time, Joshua wrote :

> Just a thought, would it be possible to generalize this ALSA 
> stuff to make building a kernel with *any* custom/optional/updated
> modules an easy thing? I think some scripts or at least step-by-step
> instructions would be great. 
> 
> For example, to build a kernel RPM with ALSA do:
> 1. get the kernel source
> 2. get the ALSA source
> 3. run the custom-kernel.sh script
> ...
> 
> Or a kernel RPM with the lastest wireless LAN drivers:
> 1. get the kernel source
> 2. get the CVS driver source
> 3. run the custom-kernel.sh script
> ...
> 
> etc.

This wouldn't be worth the effort involved IMHO, and would probably end up
in relative breakage of a few systems if not carefully tested.
Your first example is a good one, because I really think it's even easier
currently :
1. Leave your current kernel as-is
2. Get the ""alsa-driver"" source rpm
3. Rebuild and install resulting packages

Drivers that are written to be easily compiled as modules (like ltmodem,
NVidia, ALSA etc.) can easily be repackaged separately as rpms and ported
as easily for various kernel rpms from the source rpm.

Also, what you describe is sort of the opposite of what rpm packaging is in
my mind. I see it more as a ""one size fits all"" achievement in the general
case. And kernel isn't an exception (although there are packages optimized
for various processors) since they all come with just about all the modules
you'll ever need. Make that ""one size fits many"" then if you want ;-)

Last but not least : The kernel is something I'm trying to keep away from
in my packaging since I really don't want to see newbies screwing up their
systems because of packages on my website... same goes for GNOME, KDE and
other major bits of the distribution since I also want people who happily
use my packages to be able to upgrade to the next Red Hat Linux release
without having their system turned into another Ximian mess.

Matthias

PS: Yes Chris, I'm worried about not giving you too much work! Less in fact
since you can easily answer ""freshrpms.net!"" to people asking how to play
DVDs, right? ;-))))

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"1","Folks,
 
my first time posting - have a bit of Unix experience, but am new to Linux.

 
Just got a new PC at home - Dell box with Windows XP. Added a second hard disk
for Linux. Partitioned the disk and have installed Suse 7.2 from CD, which went
fine except it didn't pick up my monitor.
 
I have a Dell branded E151FPp 15"" LCD flat panel monitor and a nVidia GeForce4
Ti4200 video card, both of which are probably too new to feature in Suse's default
set. I downloaded a driver from the nVidia website and installed it using RPM.
Then I ran Sax2 (as was recommended in some postings I found on the net), but
it still doesn't feature my video card in the available list. What next?
 
Another problem. I have a Dell branded keyboard and if I hit Caps-Lock twice,
the whole machine crashes (in Linux, not Windows) - even the on/off switch is
inactive, leaving me to reach for the power cable instead.
 
If anyone can help me in any way with these probs., I'd be really grateful -
I've searched the 'net but have run out of ideas.
 
Or should I be going for a different version of Linux such as RedHat? Opinions
welcome.
 
Thanks a lot,
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"1","Hi Dermot, if have a look at one of the dists. like www.smoothwall.org, it
will save you lots of time and effort, and should do eveything you want.

Justin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ilug-admin@linux.ie [mailto:ilug-admin@linux.ie]On Behalf Of
> Dermot Daly
> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:46 AM
> To: ilug@linux.ie
> Subject: [ILUG] What HOWTOs for SOHO system
>
>
> Hi All,
> I'm trying to set up the following:
>
> 1. A Linux server running with a modem for internet connectivity and an
> ethernet card for LAN connectivity
> 2. Other LAN pcs with ethernet cards, using the Linux server for
> DNS/DHCP etc.
>
> Basically, I want to route any non LAN traffic through the ppp0.
>
> I've got some of the way, but like a similar post earlier about modem
> problems, when I am connected to the internet with eht0 up, the routing
> is all incorrect and noting goes out through ppp0 (eh0 must be the
> default route or something).
>
> Is there standard ""out of the box"" Linux tools that will carry out
> portmapping on behalf of the LAN PCs ?  (I'm planning on non routable
> addresses 192.168.x.x for the LAN, routed outwards via the ppp0
> interface).
>
> Can someone point me at the right HOWTOs or routing documentation I need
> to follow ?
> Thanks,
> Dermot."
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"1",">
> 6.  Hardware is getting so fast that I'm not sure if the performance
> difference between Java and C/C++ are relevant any more.

When out-of-the-box parsing & transform of XML in java is 25x slower than
C++ on the same hardware then it does matter."
"1","On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Reza B'Far (eBuilt) wrote:

> 2.  C and C++ forces the developer to solve problems such as memory
> management over and over again.  IMHO, Java is superior because the problem
> of programming in the future is not about 0's and 1's, making the compiler
> 2% faster, or making your code take 5% less memory... It's about design
> patterns, architecture, high level stuff...

Considering 90% of the fake job posting I see are for embedded systems or
device drivers - C still rules the world.

> 3.  Java is not just a programming language! It's also a platform... There
> is NOTHING like the standard API's in Java in C and C++.  Everyone defines
> their own API's, people end up solving the same problems ten different ways

The problem is the problem you're trying to solve is never the same. Java
will soon suffer API-rot (alot of poeple are already complaining about it),
it's just new. C was clean in the beginning too. API-rot is PURELY a
function of age.

> 4.  If you have a program of any type of high complexity written in C, you
> can't possibly think that you could port it to different platforms within
> the same magnitude of cost as Java....

I do this all the time, It's alot easier then you think if the original
programmer had a clue at all... Java does remove the clue requirement tho,
just adds a huge testing requirement, QA guys aren't as cheap ;)

> 5.  Makes no sense for a scientific or a business project to depend on a
> person... Java, IMHO, reduces the dependence of these entities on the
> individual developer as it is much easier to reverse engineer Java as it is
> to reverse engineer C (large applications).

No it's not, but you can hire teams of Javites for cheap at your local high
school. Java is about cutting costs and commoditizing programming - and it's
working!

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"1","On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 19:27, Barry Dexter A. Gonzaga wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 05:10:47PM -0400, Larry W. Virden wrote:
> > I am wondering whether there's a way that I can use sitescooper and/or plucker
> > or some other free utility to convert word documents into something a bit
> > more palmos friendly?
> 
> 	You could try antiword (http://www.winfield.demon.nl/linux/).
> It's consoled based and converts word 6+ docs to text and some images to
> postscript and png.

also there's catdoc and wv for Word --> text conversions.  actually, wv
consists of wvWare, which as the manpage says ""converts word documents
into other formats such as PS, PDF, HTML, LaTeX, DVI, ABW"".  HTML would
probably be the best format for use with Plucker/SiteScooper, depending
on how good the DOC --> HTML conversion is.  i haven't used either in
over a year as AbiWord or OpenOffice work well enough.  (prefer AbiWord
for it's light-weight size, but OpenOffice has the better DOC importer.)

don't know which of these are better or worse than the other, but i
figure, ""the more the merrier"". ;-)

> You could also try openoffice and/or abiword if you
> have x installed.

AbiWord supports exporting to PalmDoc (.pdb) which is about as
PalmOS-friendly as you can get.  never tried/needed it, but it's listed
there in the ""Save As"" dialog box.

Wine (or CrossOver Office, if you already have it) may support Word
Viewer (free download from Microsoft), but didn't a year or so ago when
i last tried.  Word Viewer is what i used back in the day to convert
Word 97 docs to Word 95, as you could display the Word 97 doc and copy &
paste the text (with formatting) into Word 95, which was the only
version of Word that i had.  anyways, a little nostalgia.

> > I don't have a Windows machine, so it becomes problematic to convert them;
> > I know that if this were not the case, in Word I could save them as some
> > other more friendly format.

i have a windows (dual-boot) machine, but it only get used by my
significant other and for burning multi-session cd-r/rw.  (is there any
linux gui app that supports cdrecord's multi-session feature?)  since
OpenOffice, i've been able to edit Word docs flawlessly (or at least the
simple Word documents i receive from others).

anyways...
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        ""A case in point is web designer Matt Jones, the man 
         responsible for how BBC News Online looked when it launched. 
         Since then, he has invented 'warchalking', which he recently 
         described as a 'curse'...""
                              http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/2210091.stm
                  - but you cannot turn against me! I... created you!


                                >> HARD NEWS <<
                               stiffening sinews

         More hot summer days in the mailinglist alleyways,
         dangerously empty of sane postings, strewn with the rotting
         carcasses of broiling vacation messages. Hacktress and
         Silicon Valley's chief rat-keeper LILE ELAM, excitedly posts
         about a new open 802.11 network she's found. ""I am here at
         the police station waiting to see a judge and I thought I
         would check to see if there is connectivity"", she writes,
         somewhat recklessly, to the Bay Area Wireless list. Exit
         the rest of the Wifi community through the nearest window
         and out into the streets... where, cooling tempers, the
         Microsoft Palladium boys are on an endless summer tour,
         reassuring the experts that while, hmm, they *suppose* Pd
         could *theoretically* be used as a Hollywood DRM system,
         they truly have no plans to do any such thing. Cypherpunk
         and friend of freedom Lucky Green hears this; thinks up four
         or five of the obvious Palladium DRM implementations; sends
         them off to be patented in his name. Licensing funds, we
         imagine, will go on cracking his own DRMs. And so the mail
         loops on.
         http://lists.bawug.org/pipermail/wireless/2002-August/008507.html
                                 - administrivia: HI MOM, I'M IN JAIL
    http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@wasabisystems.com/msg02554.html
                             - Green/Palladium, like Green Kryptonite

         Could Lucky get himself arrested under the DMCA for
         distributing a circumvention device? Worse: now we have the
         EUCD incoming, could he here in the UK? Will Alan Cox go to
         jail for posting detailed Changelogs? Will even the nicest
         UK cryptographer (or curious garage tinkerer) find
         themselves hauled up under our new and scarily DMCAish
         copyright regime? Find out the facts at the free FAIR DEAL
         FOR COPYRIGHT conference, organised by the irrepressible
         FOUNDATION FOR INFORMATION POLICY RESEARCH for Wednesday
         2002-09-18 at the London School of Economics. All the usual
         fun from the creators of the Scrambling for Safety crypto
         cons: we confidently predict government spokesmen caught in
         headlights, wanton Dave Bird heckling, some industry bigwig
         fighting off the audience with a broken chairleg, and other
         epiphenomena of the interzone between legal minds and hacker
         ethics. Oh, and FIPR are still looking for a Programme
         Director, so if you're interested, let them know. We
         suggested a convention raffle (first prize: the director's
         job, second prize: Ross Anderson as your personal slave for
         a day). They say there's some rule that would break, though.
         http://www.fipr.org/vacancy.html
- doesn't the Foundation use psychohistory for filling these positions?

         For those of us who can't read the abbreviation EULA without 
         thinking of Martian fighting machines and their ""deafening 
         howls... which roared like thunder"", we're sorry to report 
         that this weekend's multimedia performance of Jeff Wayne's WAR 
         OF THE WORLDS has been postponed due to ""health and safety 
         issues"". The event was to feature computer graphics, 
         fireworks, ""60ft-tall Martian fighting machines"" wreaking 
         ""havoc and destruction"", and - most terrifyingly of all - the 
         possibility of a David Essex tribute singer performing with 
         Hawkwind, but UKP18 tickets for the Sat 2002-08-31 show at 
         Manchester's Heaton Park will still be valid at a range of new 
         venues next summer. Ironically, the Martians' original 
         invasion plans were similarly thwarted by health and safety 
         issues, ""slain after all man's devices had failed by the 
         humblest creatures that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this 
         earth: bacteria. Minute, invisible, bacteria. For, directly 
         the invaders arrived and drank and fed, our microscopic allies 
         attacked them...""
         http://www.waroftheworlds.info/postpone.htm
                           - ""...From that moment, they were doomed.""


                                >> ANTI-NEWS <<
                             berating the obvious

         moving on from PUERILE GOOGLE MISSPELLINGS, weird search-and-
         replace artefact: http://www.google.com/search?q=consideyellow ,
         Japanese fan sites for ""plince"", ""steery dan"", ""def reppard"" 
         et al, plus the 18,000 or more self-referential Usenet .sigs: 
         http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22get+random+signatures%22 
         ...http://www.colocation-network.com/ ""Zerodowntime"" ad leads 
         to: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/30/dohzero.gif ... slightly 
         harsh alt text: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/30/dohover.gif ... 
         US military discovers the only ""translator"" those bastards 
         seem to understand: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/30/dohgun.gif 
         ... scary blue men herald return of the bizarre BBC hacking 
         pics: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/1494091.stm ... reporter RYAN 
         DILLEY http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2202552.stm pulls his 
         http://starwars.org.pl/galeria/e2/char/anakin/t001.jpg face 
         ... banjo maestro GEORGE FORMBY still alive, cooking, black: 
     http://www.readersheds.co.uk/readersheds/shop.cfm?WOSNAMES=Wosnames
         ... thanks guys, that ought to do it: http://www.eap.ca/ ... 
         

                               >> EVENT QUEUE <<
                         goto's considered non-harmful

         Controversially, we're all in favour of THE GUARDIAN GREAT 
         BRITISH BLOG COMPETITION (closing date next Fri 2002-09-06, 
         first prize UKP1000, entry free), in that any initiative that 
         encourages this notoriously primadonna-ish ""community"" to try 
         and engage with real-world notions of editorial quality surely 
         has to be a good thing. Our only disappointment is that The 
         Guardian appears to be focussing on the ""best"" of the entries, 
         when everyone knows the real fun is to be had cruising the 
         truly terrible examples that the genre has to offer, mentally 
         allocating points for ""Most Depressing Recycling Of Daypop Top
         40 URLs"", ""Most Unsettling Revelations About Personal Life"", 
         plus of course ""Most Tedious Linking/Reciprocal Linking To Other 
         Bloggers In Absence Of Having Anything Interesting To Say"". 
         http://www.guardian.co.uk/weblog/bestbritishblog/
                              - ""A strange game, Professor Falken...""
       http://media.guardian.co.uk/newmedia/comment/0,7496,765161,00.html
                         - ""...the only winning move is not to play.""


                                >> TRACKING <<
               sufficiently advanced technology : the gathering

          The respective trademark holders will hate this, but
          Windows really *is* like the Sun. You have this big hulking
          mass of concentrated power in the middle, with a few small
          orbiting utilities - like WinZip, and PuTTY, and VNC.
          Occasionally one will get a bit too close to the OS, and
          Microsoft will suck it down and turn it into fuel for the
          System. One such discrete satellite remains FILEZILLA, the
          still-necessary ftp gui client for Windows. Those who know
          it won't need the introduction, although they might
          appreciate the note that it's getting close to v2.0 time.
          For dogged WS_FTP users, though, it's got multiple
          downloads, auto-restart of interrupted 'loads, queuing, and
          sftp and Kerberos support. It's also GPL'd which makes it a
          nice bit of source for anyone wanting to grok Win32
          networking from something that works.
          http://filezilla.sf.net/
  - talking of trademarks, will the Godzilla people strike before MS?


                                >> MEMEPOOL <<
                ceci n'est pas une http://www.gagpipe.com/

         (Not safe for work) next year's RED NOSE DAY looks more fun 
         than usual: http://www.threepillows.com/tour2.htm ... Mirrored 
         Disaster Recovery Suite - to go with mirrored bathroom etc?: 
       http://www.dovebid.com/Auctions/AuctionDetail.asp?AuctionID=1450
         ... and then the kid can take you to court for mental cruelty: 
         http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/08/27/turok.baby.reut/ ... 
         ""funny"" prefixes in front of ""chalking"" #n+1 - the actually 
         quite pragmatic: http://www.pinkbunny.co.uk/poochalking/ ... 
         no longer knowing - or caring - if these are prank AMAZON 
         reviews or not, for Potter's ever-popular ""vibrating"" broom: 
     http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/toys/B00005NEBW/
         ... ditto ""Use This Software At Your Own Risk"" disclaimer for: 
         http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=41030 
         ... DAFFY DUCK appears in dock - accused of ""dethpicable"" 
         behaviour?: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2223065.stm , 
         http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_659889.html ...


                                >> GEEK MEDIA <<
                                  get out less

         TV>> celebrity cameo night tonight, with Brad Pitt in FRIENDS 
         (9pm, Fri, C4), Sydney Pollack in WILL AND GRACE (9.30pm, Fri, 
         C4), Dustin Hoffman in V GRAHAM NORTON (10.30pm, Fri, C4), and 
         a singing, dancing peanut in globalised trade documentary ALT-
         TV (7.30pm, Fri, C4)... the BBC have kept McEnroe and the 
         heart monitor, got rid of the live crocodiles in gimmicky 
         quizshow THE CHAIR (6.40pm, Sat, BBC1)... and a month of 
         ""September 11th"" specials kicks off with AVENGING TERROR (8pm, 
         Sat & Sun, C4) - yet those responsible for BOWFINGER (9pm, 
         Sat, C4) and NOTTING HILL (9pm, Sun, C4) still remain 
         unpunished... John ""The Last Seduction"" Dahl's ROUNDERS (11pm, 
         Sat, BBC2) turns out to be about high-stakes poker, rather 
         than the girls' version of baseball... in the wake of DAVE 
         GORMAN'S IMPORTANT ASTROLOGY EXPERIMENT (10.40pm, Sun, BBC2), 
         how about a three-way challenge where he, Tony Hawks and Pete 
         McCarthy battle to come up with the most lucrative pointless 
         pretext for a book and TV show?... but we still have a soft 
         spot for Ron ""Alien: Resurrection"" Perlman liberal self-
         flagellation THE LAST SUPPER (11.20pm, Sun, C4)... 9/11 CLEAR 
         THE SKIES (9pm, Sun, BBC2) is a presumably uneventful account 
         of ""how US air defence systems responded to the events of 
         September 11th""... inexplicably, the three finalists in THE 
         TARTIEST MEN IN BRITAIN (10.30pm, Mon, ITV) all come from 
         Leeds... Larry Clark takes a somewhat indirect approach to 
         conveying his safe-sex message in New York filth-fest KIDS 
         (1.15am, Tue, C4)... and the September 11th build-up continues 
         with HOW THE TWIN TOWERS COLLAPSED (8pm, Mon, C4), LET'S ROLL: 
         THE STORY OF FLIGHT 93 (10.30pm, Wed, ITV), plus THE MEYSSAN 
         CONSPIRACY (11.05pm, Tue, C4) - ie the French guy behind: 
       http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm
         ... away from the polluted nightmare of modern living, a 
         family seek out a new way of life in Earth Summit tie-in A 
         LAND WORTH LOVING (7pm, Wed, BBC1)... which coincidentally 
         also forms the plot of this week's second Heather ""Bowfinger"" 
         Graham turkey, LOST IN SPACE (7.55pm, Wed, BBC1) - not to be 
         confused with the return of those annoying posh women in 
         WORLD'S WORST DRESSED (8pm, Wed, BBC2), who have at least shut 
         up about their always-doomed hideously purple e-commerce 
         site: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/712188.stm ...
         
         FILM>> the comic skills of Cameron Diaz, Christina Applegate 
         and Parker Posey combine in a cross between a teen smut comedy 
         and an episode of ""Sex And The City"", THE SWEETEST THING 
         ( http://www.screenit.com/movies/2002/the_sweetest_thing.html :
         As [Diaz] and [Applegate] drive down the road still dressed in 
         just their bras and underwear, [Applegate] drops her bottle of 
         fingernail polish. [Diaz] then goes over to get it, with 
         her panty-covered butt in the air and her head down toward 
         [Applegate]'s legs and crotch; [Selma Blair] [has] her mouth 
         stuck around a man's privates after apparently performing oral 
         sex on him)... Robin Williams plays a surprisingly convincing 
         Hannibal Lecter in morally complicated Alaskan Al Pacino 
         murder madness INSOMNIA ( http://www.cndb.com/ : You can see 
         [Crystal Lowe's] tits in autopsy photos and again - along with 
         bush - when she's seen on a autopsy table. Nice boobs but 
         she's dead)... it's Eddie Murphy, Randy Quaid, Jay ""Jerry 
         Maguire"" Mohr, John Cleese and Pam Grier - together at last! - 
         in blaxploitation sci-fi spoof THE ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH 
  ( http://www.screenit.com/movies/2002/the_adventures_of_pluto_nash.html :
         the woman then causes the image of [Rosario ""Kids"" Dawson] to 
         suddenly have much larger breasts and an exaggeratedly large 
         rear end)... all of which, shockingly, are an improvement on 
         John Woo interspersing lame battle scenes with agonising anti-
         racist philosophising in WW2 Navajo crypto clunker WINDTALKERS 
         ( http://www.capalert.com/capreports/windtalkers.htm : 
         gambling; beheading; brief partial nudity of a Japanese 
         soldier; I have no doubt that such gore is present in war but 
         must it be regurgitated in and as entertainment?)... 


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"1","John P. Looney stated the following on Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:31:11PM +0100 :
>  I'm not sure what exactly is wrong with this, but I can't get a redhat
> 7.1 box to use ttyS0 as a console.
> 
>  The relevant bits of /boot/grub/grub.conf are:
> 
> serial --unit=0 --speed=115200
> terminal --timeout=2 console serial
> title=linux
>    root (hd0,4)
>    kernel /boot/bzImage ro root=/dev/md0 console=ttyS0,115200n81
															     ^
That 1 is unneeded and is probably whats upsetting your kernel

we use ""console=ttyS0,9600n8"" but the 9600 is mainly cos we are a cisco
shop and its to keepo everyhting the same.

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"1","ok, so if i was in the uk for a wekk, how might i configure my laptop to
dial in to a freebie isp?  redhat's internet connection wizard actually
has settings for uk isp's, but freeserve is the only one i recognize
and it doen't seem to work.

has anyone here done this?

kevin

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>
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> elsewhere in this thread.
> 
> 
> One is Firebird (this is my personal favourite).
> It is http://FirebirdSQL.org and you can
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> www.ibphoenix.com.

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"1","> From: fork-admin@xent.com [mailto:fork-admin@xent.com] On Behalf Of
Dave
> Long
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:12 AM
> To: fork@example.com
> Subject: RE: The Curse of India's Socialism
> 
> 
> 
> When I'd read that ""getting legal title
> can take 20 years"", when I believe that
> 1 year ought to be more than sufficient,
> (and helped by the Cairo reference) I'd
> assumed that we were talking about the
> urban poor.
> 
> If I see people living in mansions, or
> even in suburban subdivisions, I assume
> they didn't have too much trouble with
> their titles.

Pg 177:
In another country, a local newspaper, intrigued by our evidence of
extralegal real estate holdings, checked to see if the head of state's
official residence had a recorded title.  It did not.

Pg 92:
The value of land in the formal sector of Lima averages US$50 per square
meter, whereas in the area of Gamarra, where a great deal of Peru's
informal manufacturing sector resides, the value per square meter can go
as high as US$3,000.

==========

I'd have made the same assumption you did.  De Soto says that isn't
correct.  You can find mansions that don't have title.  A lot of them,
in fact.  But they can't be used for collateral for a loan, or otherwise
participate as 'capital' because of their extra-legal status.

 
> > Mr. Long, I think you'd particularly enjoy the De Soto work.
> 
> On the ""to find"" list.  Any chance of
> an explanation of that ""Bell Jar"" in
> the meantime?

French historian Fernand Braudel (so Braudel's Bell Jar, not De Soto's)

==>

The key problem is to find out why that sector of society of the past,
which I would not hesitate to call capitalist, should have lived as if
in a bell jar, cut off from the rest; why was it not able to expand and
conquer the whole of society? ... [Why was it that] a significant rate
of capital formation was possible only in certain sectors and not in the
whole market economy of the time? ... It would perhaps be teasingly
paradoxial to say that whatever was in short supply, money certainly was
not ... so this was an age where poor land was bought up and magnificent
country residents built ... [How do we] resolve the contradiction ...
between the depressed economic climate and the splendors of Florence
under Lorenzo the Magnificent?
 

--------------

De Soto's theory is that the Bell Jar is formed when you segregate those
who have *practical* access to legal property rights and those who do
not.  The poor[1] have property -- lots and lots of property.  What they
don't have is access to the systems where we turn property into capital
and allow it to start growing.  Their property can only be exchanged
with a small section of people who know them personally.

[1] Actual poor people, not 'poor' Americans with a living standard that
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